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Legion SSB-212L Cabinet Review

Mar 9, 2005
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Northern Wisconsin
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Avatar Club#12 Eden Club Lucky# 13--USA Peavey Club#37 Carvin Club#5
I have got to tell you guys, I am very impressed with this cab.These are a 9 ply birch plywood cab, with good internal bracing, 2 12inch Madison Knight drivers, and a cloth compression horn, crossed with 45uf capacitor, should bring the horn in at about 1000hz. Horn is not a real sharp pain in the ears either. With a cloth diapharm, its not too shrill.I use an Eden WT-405 as a preamp to a Carvin DCM2000 power amp, so I'm pushing 700 watts per channel at 4 ohms. These are a 4 ohm cab,rated at 600 rms, so I hit it with all 700 watts out of one channel, and if you know how Edens are, just a couple clicks off of flat, your starting to push some real heavy low end. Thats what I hit it with, wide open, clip light flashing. The cab handles it all with ease. No complaints from the drivers, no distortion at all, no signs of hitting X-max, or any wierd noises, just lots of good sound from this cab. I am very impressed. Wish I would have bought one a while back. They have these on E-Bay for 140.00 on a buy-it-now, with a 40.00 ship charge. 180.00 for a real good sounding, well made 4 ohm 212 cab, damn hard to beat that for a deal! I have got to say that it really does sound as good as an Avatar 212 to my ears. Maybe not quite as much lows, at first, but a couple of clicks on my Eden's EQ, and it was right there, with BIG low end. The only draw back to this cab, that I see, is the crappy plastic jack plate, but changing that out to a steel one is a piece of cake anyway. Just about anyone with some small skills can do it. Man, if you guys who are as broke as me, pass on one of these cabs, you are missing one hell of a good cab deal. I think this cab will be my main road dog now. getting it a little banged up, won't hurt as much as banging up my more expensive gear. and I will still have good sound. I highly recommend this cab to all.
 
Yes, it looks like we both agree. I replaced the jackplate with one right from Music Supply Center. it's their part# PAT113A, it has 2 speakons and two 1/4 inch, and they sell it for only 3 bucks,with the jacks and speakons in it, 3 bucks! Why they can't just have the China factory install that plate is beyond me. I'm sure the jackplate itself also comes from the China factory. Sure would improve the cabs saleability from anybodys view I'm sure.
 
I am very surprised by the lack of guys comenting on this review. It seems everyone likes paying alot of money for their cabs. Passing up one of these cabs at the cheap price they sell for seems silly to me. I know that Music Supply Center has gotten a bad reputation from people over the years, but this particular cab is the best deal that they offer.
 
I've been considering this cab for awhile but hadn't heard how they did on the lows. Sounds like you're satisfied in that regard with a little EQ adjustment. I might take a chance on getting one and use it as the only cab for now. Then if it does take care of the low end, maybe stack a 210 on top for extra punch later.
 
The lows will get better as the voice coil, former, and suspension break in. I ordered a set of Legion cabs for one of my customers, and he just loves them. His came with the Eminence drivers(upcharge), and have not heard anything but great stuff about legion cabs since.
 
I ordered the LS 212 cab today and can't wait for it to arrive. A couple of years ago, I bought their combo deal on Ebay for an Eminence 115 cab and a 210 cab. I was really surprised at the sound - especially for the money! That's when they were using individual round grilles over each driver and that made them look a bit cheap. Couldn't argue with the sound, however, and the build quality of the cabinets was very good, too. I would prefer a metal jack plate and metal handles, but that's easy enough to change and there's no need to hurry.

A few years ago, I bought a Madison 412 cabinet that had been a floor model at a NAMM show for $225 on Ebay!! It was a BEAST. It could hold its own easily with almost any 810 out there. I really regret selling that one, but it was huge and a challenge to transport in my car.

So, back to the Legion 212. I can't wait to hear the Madison 12's again, but in a smaller package. I am going to drive it with an Ashdown head so I have high expectations. I'll post a review in a couple of weeks once it gets here and I put it through its paces. I play electric and upright, so I'll give it a go with both.
 
Well, maybe I spoke to soon.

I got an email from Music Supply Center today stating that my LS212 was damaged by FedEx and it was the LAST ONE! They offered to send a 410 in its place, but I can't do that for a couple of reasons:

1) The 410 cab is wired at 8-ohms. I need a single cab wired at 4-ohms for my setup.
2) I SOLD MY 410 cab to fund this cab, so getting a 410 wouldn't really do me much good other than replacing a 4-ohm Avatar 410 with an 8-ohm Legion 410.

Luckily, they refunded my money quickly, but I am really depressed. There aren't many cabs out there of this quality for $180 shipped!

I am so bummed right now I can't even stand it.
 
joegeezer said:
They probably fixed the one that you were supposed to get last time. What are you pushing it with?? Make sure to hit it with some power, and give us your report!

It's a seriously nice cab! It had a small dent on the front edge at the top. No biggie. There was a slight scuff in the carpet on one side. Basically, it's what my cabs end up looking like after a month or two of dragging them around to gigs anyway!

The Construction:
All birch plywood. Very tough and well made. It seems almost as strong as the Avatar - no MDF, either. They skimp a little on the hardware to cut costs. The speaker jack plate is plastic and only has two 1/4" jacks. I definitely prefer speakon jacks. Unfortunately, my Ashdown head only has 1/4" jacks as well, so it looks like I'm back to 1/4" soeaker cables. I might replace the jack plate on the cab when I get the urge to do so, but I'm in no hurry at all. For now, I made a 1/4" cable out of heavy duty 12 gage wire and big Neutrk ends, so all is well. The handles are also plastic, but seem sturdy enough. Again, I might replace them later on, but probably only if one breaks. The corners are metal. I've grown accustomed to plastic corners that you see on most cabs, but hte metal ones are super tough, so that's fine.

The Sound:
Again, extremely impressive! I am hitting it with "307 watts" from my Ashdown MAG300 head. I can only imaging the sounds you would get from a more powerful amp like hte GK 1001RB-II. The Madison Knight drivers are absolutely amazing in my opinion. I think they are every bit as good as Eminence Neos. Actually, I like the bottom end even more than the Neos. In a way, they sound almost like a 15, but a lot more defined and focused. They have rib rattling bottom end, but are also very fast and punchy at the same time. They seem to have the speed of my Avatar 410 Delta, but a lot more bottom end. Can't beat that! I think they could handle whatever power you want to throw at them. The tweeter is not adjustable, but seems to fit into the overall sound pretty nicely. For a cheaper tweeter, it's not shrill at all and there is little or no hiss. I thought I would want to add volume control to the jack plate for it, but I really see no need right now. It sounds great like it is. My upright sounds great through it with a Revolution Solo II and no preamp. Even the subtle fingering of the notes comes through very transparently. The slap clicks are crisp without being tinny. I also played my son's Mustang copy through it and it was absolutely amazing.

So, the main cabs that I have to compare this to are the Avatar Neo 212 that I sold to buy this cab, my previous Avatar Delta 410 (4ohm), a 4ohm Avatar Delta 210 that I had a while back and an Ampeg Classic 410 that I also owned a while back. In terms of sound, it sounds better than the Ampeg and the Avatar 210 for sure. It edges out the Avatar 410 because of a better bottom end and I honestly think it beats the Avatar 212 by a slim margin. I wish my Avatar had been 4ohms so I could directly compare the two. Even with that difference, I just like the sounds that I get from the Legion cab. The Avatar is probably built a little better and I like the bottom port design of the Aavtar as well. The Legion clearly skimps on the hardware and it has two round port inserts rather than the bottom slotted port of the Avatar. That said, I have no worries that it will hold up bringing it to gigs.

The Legion cab, even if you pay full price at $180 shipped for it, is half what the Avatar costs. If you upgrade the jack plate and the handles, you are still AT LEAST $100 less than the Avatar. Better than that if you get the replacement parts from Music Supply Center. For that I have to give the edge to the Legion in terms of overall bang for the buck. That's almost difficult for me to say because I really love Avatar cabinets and Dave is one of the best guys in hte biz Still, there's no denying what this Legion has to offer.

I think the ideal cab would probably be a 212 Avatar cabinet loaded with Madison Knight drivers. That would be the best of both worlds in terms of quality and sound.
 
Well, I think that about sticks it. Everybody, who has tried these cabs so far, has all had the same opinion on them. They are about the best bang for the buck, in a 212 cab on the market today, IMHO. If I was still playing big rock gigs, I would love to try out one of their Madison 810 cabs. I have heard nothing but good about that cab too. Give these a try you guys. The pricing can't be beat.