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1 spot vs. isolated power supplies

#41
I'm confused...if you don't have the original wall-wart and you haven't tried it in your setup, how have you powered it at all?

The Super Synth needs, according to the manual, 12V, center negative, >550 mA. I had heard the Compressore was the same, but don't quote me on that. I looked up the Compressore manual and it only said 12V, no current requirement that I could find.

There is the ISO Power Pump solution, but that only goes up to 480 mA @ 12V.

pappas0211 said:
And just to clear things up real quick. When I bought the compressore it was the last one. They couldn't find the box for it in the back. Yes, I got a discount and it works great, but I didn't get the adapter with it. So, I'm looking to see what one it came with.
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#42
Yes I have. I had it running through a VooDoo Power Plus 2. I recently sold that and downsized to a 1spot. Now, it's not hooked up cause I don't have the adapter since the 1spot is only 9v.

Adamixoye said:
I'm confused...if you don't have the original wall-wart and you haven't tried it in your setup, how have you powered it at all?

The Super Synth needs, according to the manual, 12V, center negative, >550 mA. I had heard the Compressore was the same, but don't quote me on that. I looked up the Compressore manual and it only said 12V, no current requirement that I could find.

There is the ISO Power Pump solution, but that only goes up to 480 mA @ 12V.
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#43
Ok. How did you run it off of the Voodoo? Did you switch 5 & 6 to 12V and put them together with an adapter?

pappas0211 said:
Yes I have. I had it running through a VooDoo Power Plus 2. I recently sold that and downsized to a 1spot. Now, it's not hooked up cause I don't have the adapter since the 1spot is only 9v.
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#45
So in general, is a multi-supply like a 1spot better or worse than using a daisy chaining power supply setup? Or are there advantages/disadvantages to each?

Right now I only have three pedals but I might have 5 by the end of December. I don't want to have TOO many pedals but getting a isolated supply for each is kind of a headache.

Maybe I could try a 1spot and if I ever find noise with a pedal, just power that one individually?
 
#46
Line 6 G50, MXR Envelope, EBS Bass IQ, MXR Octave, EBS Multicomp, VTBass, Visound Volume, Zoom ME60B, EBS Unichorus, EBS Dynaverb, BBE SonicStomp, Peterson Turner, EBS Micro Bass.

Single 1Spot.

In studios, all over the USA and Canada, small bars to arenas, crappy power situations, generators and NEVER a noise issue. Not one. In 6 years.

I carry a spare 1Spot just in case it fails. I've never used it, but I have loaned it to PP users when theirs failed a couple of times.

$200 or $25. It's your money.
 
#51
Sir Sly Ry said:
So in general, is a multi-supply like a 1spot better or worse than using a daisy chaining power supply setup?
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Well, the 1spot IS a daisy chain. So you might be asking something else, about the difference between a daisy chain and something with multiple isolated outlets. :) In which case, go over the past posts explaining about why some pedal chains work fine all daisy-chained, and why some specific combinations of pedals need to be isolated.

The advantage of a daisy chain is it is very small and very cheap.
Maybe I could try a 1spot and if I ever find noise with a pedal, just power that one individually?
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That's a reasonable approach.
 
#52
bongomania said:
Well, the 1spot IS a daisy chain. So you might be asking something else, about the difference between a daisy chain and something with multiple isolated outlets. :)
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Haha, oops. Yeah, once I looked at pics I was thinking that in the back of my mind. Ok.

Ok final question then (maybe), and this won't apply to me any time soon, but suppose you run out of spots with your daisy chain cable. Can you daisy chain daisy chain cables? Is that how Got2 powers 12 pedals at once?
bongomania said:
That's a reasonable approach.
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That's good to know, since I have a couple regulated adapters at the moment (a Boss made one for my DD-3 and a Jim Dunlop one for my Phase 100). Hopefully they should work with other pedals, IF the need ever arose.

And thanks for your responses, I very much appreciate them.
 
#53
Sir Sly Ry said:
Haha, oops. Yeah, once I looked at pics I was thinking that in the back of my mind. Ok.



Ok final question then (maybe), and this won't apply to me any time soon, but suppose you run out of spots with your daisy chain cable. Can you daisy chain daisy chain cables? Is that how Got2 powers 12 pedals at once?



That's good to know, since I have a couple regulated adapters at the moment (a Boss made one for my DD-3 and a Jim Dunlop one for my Phase 100). Hopefully they should work with other pedals, IF the need ever arose.



And thanks for your responses, I very much appreciate them.
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I've hears of guys running one 1spot with multiple daisy chains. Sillyfabe does that. I myself use three 1spots for about 17 pedals. I first bought a pedal power 2 but when I got it home and started hooking it up I brought it to the forum and thought, "what the hell am I doing?!" It would've been a waste money for me to invest in a PP2. So I took it back and got a couple 1spots. They work great. I've had some issues since I got my bass drive but I just had to do some finagling and my board sounds great! I vote 1spot all the way. For the money, you can't beat it. I keep a power strip Velcro'd to the bottom of my board and plug them right into that.
 
#55
15 pedals on two 1-spots here. I used to run everything in multiple chains using some AA battery-based power packs that I built myself. I honestly do not see any noise. I had added a Lehle DC filter that cut down on some noise I used to have with batteries but it seems unnecessary now, I still keep just because I have it. I have EHX pedals, Fuzzrocious, SFX, IE, TCE, Wounded Paw. Still no noise. I think a PP is a great idea if you have multiple kinds of voltage. But, if you have anything over 10-12 pedals, I think that truly isolated power supplies will become expensive. By the time I finish my board, If I wanted to be 100% isolated, I'd need 3 PP2+ units or maybe 2 PP Mondo units. But, if you can afford it, why not...
 
#58
I have a CIOKS DC-10 and two Godlyke Power-All adapters (basically like One-spot).

I think both are great, the CIOKS is fancier, cleaner (for wiring) and offers various amperage and voltage options. The daisy chain supply offers plenty of power, easy to add more chains to it (so long as I don't exceed 2000mA, which is a lot), but only 9v.

I was running a 18v chains off of a Dunlop 18v power supply along with the 9v power supply for the 9v effects prior to buying the CIOKS.

For 9v only usage, I suggest a Power All or One-Spot, with plenty of plugs for your needs.

For multiple voltages I suggest something like the CIOKS, but if you want to save (lots of) money, and don't mind the extra plugs, get a Dunlop (or similar made for effects regulated 18v/12v/15v wall wart) and more PA or 1S plugs, and a power stip, and an extension cord. heh.

Ultimately, a power box will cost you more money but give you a neater, more flexible set up. But if your needs are simple, like only 9v and 18v, then go with a wallwart with extra plugs.

Like I said, I use both (on two separate boards) with great results.
 
#60
gregmon79 said:
I just learned about the joyo 2 power supply. Looks pretty nice. Same thing as a PP but more than half the price. I may look into getting one of those eventually.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005M0CK9M
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The Joyo 2 does not have isolated outputs. The ground connections are shared between the outputs, which fails the requirement for isolation.

-Frank
 
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