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10's or 15's

Different drivers sound different, because they are just that. You can have 10 different 15" speakers and depending on the cab they are in they will all sound different. Same thing goes for 10's.

People need to get over driver diameter and realize its all about the cab designed around that speaker that will make or break it.
 
15s have been some of the best cabs I've ever heard (Eden 115T and first gen 115XLT, Mesa 215, SWR Triad, custom sealed 215), and some of the worst (80s peavey 215, later 115xlt). But the best list is way longer.

The 15s I like have a barky but sweet top and a full but tight bottom with physical impact, and strong textured mids. I usually like them with a bit of tweeter. Have not tried one with a mid driver other than the triad, it's definitely an interesting idea.

I'm actually thinking of going from 12s back to something with a 15 right now. Can't decide if some 10s are necessary with it, I've always done a 15+210 thing ... Considering 2 15s. I play all styles, not just rock.

+1 I've played through several different cab configurations and couldn't be happier with muy current cab, which is a BagEnd S15-D. Your description, IMO, nails the characteristic of this cab.
 
Checkout this thread http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/just-case-you-forgot-15s-rule-895564/ :D

I know a lot of players on this forum have different tastes in tone. Since I'm new to bass and bass tone, I'd like to get some ideas from others as far as a bass rig. I understand that 10" drivers can produce as much low end as 15's. I understand the only thing that changes is the SPL. Depending on driver I guess. But do 10's produce any frequency better than 15's? How about midrange? I've seen a couple of cabinets setup with 2x10/1x15 and tweeter. The specs read

"great low end from 15's, punchy midrange from 10's, high end clarity from tweeter"

Any benefit at all to this configuration. Now I'm not trying to start a thread on pairing cabs, I'm speaking strictly "what if these different drivers are in same enclosure?" I've heard people tying to bi-amp these kinds of cabinets. But doesn't make sense to me really.

And checkout the sticky's and search too - lots of good info about mixing and not mixing cabs, biamping, etc.
 
I like good sound cabs and I don't like bad sounding cabs, and the size of the speaker doesn't make a difference to me. And the size of the speaker is the very least important factor of why a cab sounds good. 10"s can't go low? How come the Ampeg SVT 410HLF goes way lower than most 15" cabs I've played? 15"s can't go as high as 10"s? There's a 15" made by Faital that can, as well as one or two old JBL speakers. If speaker size was an important factor, then all cabs made with the same size speakers would sound the same.

Also, while I like some of the new fangled woofer/mid cabs, they aren't the only way to go ;)

No, they aren't the only way to go, you're right. If someone likes the way something else sounds better, then that's the way for him to go, no question. Everyone wants to be happy with the cab they choose.

But while 15s aren't the only way to go, they represent the most powerful, potentially loudest way to go w/o getting significantly more expensive & needing a larger, heavier, possibly unwieldy box with an 18.
 
JimmyM said:
Apparently people really don't want to learn. They just want their preconceptions verified.

+1 Spot On!
Thats why we keep revisiting the same, tired threads over and over. I usually only read the threads that offer some insight or knowledge instead of engaging in opinion polls and debates over zombie topics such as "tube vs solid state" and "mixing driver size" and "which amp is good for metal" etc etc etc. But hey, if you dont like the program, change the channel lol.
CLICK! ;)
 
I've owned 10", 12", and 15" cabs over the years, and now use 12's exclusively. I find them to be the most versatile configuration for my needs.

I have two 1x12 cabs for rehearsals and small-medium sized gigs, plus a 4x12 for larger events.

If you like what you have, that's great.

But there's nothing "magical" about 12s (or 6.5s, 8s, 10s, 15s, 18s, or 21s for that matter).

It's all about the specs & characteristics of the individual driver(s) &, equally importantly, the box built around them.
 
What's wrong with 12"s?

+1. You can get amazing drivers of all sizes (5 - 18" typically) that do huge bands of frequencies...

The driver & cab combination however... You'll have to judge it on a case by case basis. Some people only use cabs with a single size full range driver, some have 3 and 2 way system... And the cabs need to do more than provide a stand for the drivers... You can say broadly that an individual 15" will outperform a similarly designed 10" due to greater area and excursion (typically). But there is no simple rule that one is better than the other. Depends on the application, the execution and the rest of the gear too. :hyper: