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15", 2x12" or 4x10" For A Single Cab Setup?

Which Would You Prefer For Single Cab Setup?

  • 15"

    Votes: 53 16.4%

  • 2x12"

    Votes: 126 38.9%

  • 4x10"

    Votes: 145 44.8%
  • Total voters
    324
#21
brndn123 said:
I use both a 212 and 410 depending on the situation. I find that though the 212 has a bit of warmer tone to it, the 410 holds its clarity at higher volumes. Either way, you can't lose!

EDIT: Berg's sound great regardless of what size they are, everyone knows this!
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410's do hold more clarity over the 212 unless the 212 is of equal stature wattage wise and frequency range imho
 
#22
RickenBoogie said:
It really does depend on the specific cabs, not the driver size. You really need to go out and play through as many different bass cabs as you possibly can, and then you'll start to get a feel for what's what. All this talk of 4x10 vs. 2x12, etc is pointless, and has absolutely zero to do with how any particular bass cab will sound, or how loud it will be.
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I know... I'm just getting a little impatient :hyper: ... it's going to be a good 3 weeks or so before I can get to a place to start testing... :(
 
#24
Bass_Pounder said:
Totally false as a blanket statement..................

There are plenty of 2X12's, and yes, also single 15's that can keep up with a 4X10.

The blanket statement that 10's have a quicker response is also false.
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I think it is false to make the statement that a single 15 can keep up w 410's it might come close but it will not keep up imho. I think your statement was using a bigger blanket.
 
#27
lomo said:
An Avatar TB153 is a 3 way cab with neo long x-max 15 and a 6 inch mid. Give it 500 watts and it'll go as loud as a good 410, lower and clearer. Costs under 600 in N. Am.

I have heard muddy 410s, clear 212s and big Phil Jones boxes with 5 inch speakers that go very low. Even in cheap boxes, small ones with 15s tend to be middy (Schroeder, the cheaper GK offerings) as well. IMHO generalizing from driver size to cab sound is more confusing than helpful. YMMV.
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I used a HX115 Hydrive and compared it to my HX410 and my 410 wins all the time however the 115 does sound sweet. I would say if I used 215's aka HX115x2 then my friends the bass would have been the bees knees. I don't think ( this is my opinion) that even a 3way cab aka 15/6/1 would even do the trick against a 410 but who am I?
 
#28
genstormbringer said:
I think it is false to make the statement that a single 15 can keep up w 410's it might come close but it will not keep up imho. I think your statement was using a bigger blanket.
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Then do your own research............

Find out what drivers are in an average 4X10 cab, and research their displacement - then multiply by 4

Now research the displacement of a 3015LF and compare :spit:



My Mesa RR2X15 loaded with Eminence 3015's can keep up with an 8X10
 
#31
I just recently picked up a Crate 2x15 from a guy for $50. This thing has very little lows for 2x15's! I was shocked. But it does Hi-Gi very well. Guess it does really depend on the maker of the cab more than we all realize. I myself am wanting some Avatar Cabs. Can anyone give me an idea what to expect outta their 4x10's, 2x12's, and TB153?
 
#33
acedabone said:
I just recently picked up a Crate 2x15 from a guy for $50. This thing has very little lows for 2x15's! I was shocked. But it does Hi-Gi very well. Guess it does really depend on the maker of the cab more than we all realize. I myself am wanting some Avatar Cabs. Can anyone give me an idea what to expect outta their 4x10's, 2x12's, and TB153?
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Here are a few Invalid Link Removed and a Invalid Link Removed from a search I did as well as a nice review from Bass Guitar Magazine
 
#34
ryevick said:
Well one reason it's not worded that way is I play styles with tones that range from Lemmy to Manring to Geddy to Jaco and everything in between so I am looking for versatility. I also am wanting to use it everywhere from home to studio to stage and there's no telling if I will be alone or in front of a crowd so again... versatility. If I had to give a description I suppose I would say the ability for huge seismic bass with clarity throughout.

Answering it your way for yourself would possibly be helpful to me though. ;)
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In that case, I would suggest a fEarful 15/6 cabinet with a powerful amp that has a very flexible EQ section. If that's not within your budget, well, keep in mind that you're asking for a tremendous amount of versatility from a single rig.
 
#35
GregC said:
In that case, I would suggest a fEarful 15/6 cabinet with a powerful amp that has a very flexible EQ section. If that's not within your budget, well, keep in mind that you're asking for a tremendous amount of versatility from a single rig.
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I know lol... but don't we always set our goals just a little further than we can reach? If we didn't they wouldn't be much of a goal.
 
#36
Bass_Pounder said:
Totally false as a blanket statement..................

There are plenty of 2X12's, and yes, also single 15's that can keep up with a 4X10.

The blanket statement that 10's have a quicker response is also false.
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No I know this and that's not what I'm saying. U can get a 4x10 cab tht sounds alot worse than a 2x12 or wot not.

But technically speaking a wall of 10s (4 6 or 8) will physically move more air than the others.
 
#37
genstormbringer said:
I think it is false to make the statement that a single 15 can keep up w 410's it might come close but it will not keep up imho. I think your statement was using a bigger blanket.
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If you are going by speaker size and wattage rating, then I can understand your assumption.

However, we all know speaker size is as irrelevant to tone as wattage is to volume.

"There's no replacement for displacement." Take a typical 410 cab and whatever wattage rating it has, you can cut that in half and that's about it's displacement limitation (the limitation of it's actual usable power handling). Then take a fEARful 15/6 where it's displacement limitation is actually higher than it's thermal rating (wattage).

The 410 cab will lose...not only in a volume comparison but also it's ability to handle the low end and most definitely in it's lack of off axis response (where you can hear it clearly from anywhere).
 

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