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15", 2x12" or 4x10" For A Single Cab Setup?
- Thread starter ryevick
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From reading this whole post and given the price range going by your considering of the 2 hartke's a fEarful 15/6/1 is by all accounts your best choice.
My bias for that is by reading over half of the fEarful mega threads and the wiki on them. Their are plenty of of people who describe wanting what your looking for in a cab and find it in that cab. Volume wise they are said I be crazy loud. Tone wise over the in versatility able to cover all you asked for and then some.
If it's the diy part that has you worried there is always Leland at speaker hardware that can send you a flat pack and is super easy to assemble(there's a post on doing this)
There you go problem solved
My bias for that is by reading over half of the fEarful mega threads and the wiki on them. Their are plenty of of people who describe wanting what your looking for in a cab and find it in that cab. Volume wise they are said I be crazy loud. Tone wise over the in versatility able to cover all you asked for and then some.
If it's the diy part that has you worried there is always Leland at speaker hardware that can send you a flat pack and is super easy to assemble(there's a post on doing this)
There you go problem solved
It depends on the cab. I'm a 15" guy, not for any real reason, just because. My small rig is a single 15", and my big rig is a 2x15".
Depending on the tone you're going for and your volume needs, it may or may not be enough, depending also upon the specific cab. I favor a mid-heavy, overdriven tone, so for me even a single 15" is plenty loud. Those favoring lots of really deep lows might be better served with something else, however, unless the 15" cab in question is a fEarful.
Depending on the tone you're going for and your volume needs, it may or may not be enough, depending also upon the specific cab. I favor a mid-heavy, overdriven tone, so for me even a single 15" is plenty loud. Those favoring lots of really deep lows might be better served with something else, however, unless the 15" cab in question is a fEarful.
I might be remembering wrong but doesn't the cab design it's self have more to do with the tone the the size of the speaker? I seem to remember the guys who know a lot more then I saying that in some thread.
Rickett Customs
Commercial User
You are remembering right. Speaker size has little to do with tone, but people will hear what they want to hear and see what they want to see.
2x15, or 8x10... these are single cabs!!!
*wispers from the back*I think he means single small cab
:scowl: Fine, I'd go either 2x12 or 1x15. 15's just sound so nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you are correct with this line of thought. After 40 years of playing just about everything, that is what I settled on.
This is true, but the tone will change as the volume level changes (amp worked to different levels) so even though you may get the perfect tone out of every sized speaker, some times that tone will be at levels too low to play out live.
Lots of good advice here. For me, I had to recently decide on one combo that I can both lift and afford. I don't play in front of thousands anymore; more like 25 - 300. I don't play outdoors anymore. I don't do loud anymore. So I went into Sam Ash and Guitar Center with MY bass and tried everything they had (used and new). I kept going back to the GK 15" 200 watt combo. It fits me for today. I like the sound, the weight, and the price tag. You can go through these post forever, but sooner or later you need to take your bass to someplace where you can play all day. Get what you love the best. Just my opinion.
I voted 2x12, mostly because I'm digging my Genz UB 212 a lot these days. But the truth is that speaker size is not the dominant determinant of the way a cabinet sounds. That said, consumer model cabs do tend to cluster a bit in "tone homes" around driver size, but that's because the economics of mass producing cabinets usually leads the various makers to make similar choices for their 1x15, 2x12, and 4x10 boxes, more than that the speakers themselves have a certain tone based on their size. And there are differences among the various makers, plenty of examples can be found.
The GB UB 212 is pretty loud, probably not enough for metal though, but should handle anything else except on the biggest of stages. It's smooth but with a bit of mid-range burp, and the tweeter can get a little bit of sizzle going, although it's probably not a slapper's delight. It's been versatile for my finger-style needs and although I don't really play with a pick much, it sounds pretty good pick-style too (although like I said I don't have a ton of bandstand experience with pick playing through it).
The GB UB 212 is pretty loud, probably not enough for metal though, but should handle anything else except on the biggest of stages. It's smooth but with a bit of mid-range burp, and the tweeter can get a little bit of sizzle going, although it's probably not a slapper's delight. It's been versatile for my finger-style needs and although I don't really play with a pick much, it sounds pretty good pick-style too (although like I said I don't have a ton of bandstand experience with pick playing through it).
Sorry for the slight derailment here- but I figured better to post here than start a new thread. I'm considering adding a second cab to my half stack (Hartke LH1000 and Hydrive 410). I've seen several threads 'round here about the pros and cons of a 410 and 115 rig versus two 410s, but after searching can't find them.. If anybody could point a fellow bass brotha toward one of them threads, I'd appreciate it!
Guess no one has tried one but me, huh? Anyway, I got it and like it. It sounds awesome with my combo, even though it's a mismatch with the 12" in my 121H combo. I'm thinking about getting another 151P and a separate head now. This cab may not be as deep as some others, but it's not too big and only weighs 37 lbs. The 15'won't clank as quickly as the 12" when I have too much low going on and too much volume (just for experimental purposes). Actually, I can get the 15 cab by itself to sound about as loud as both cabs together without farting out. I'm liking 15s again.
I started a thread on it, but got no responses.
This is what gets me wondering. I'm thinking of getting a single cab solution.
I'm down to either a GB neox 212T (2x12) OR an Avatar 153. I've heard the GB is really loud and punchy, but I want a cab that gives a sound that I can hear myself in the mix without getting muddy.
Anyone have experience on which cab sits better in a mix? It always seems like my mids get swallowed up and I can't hear myself. And I don't like just hearing a muddy, boomy bass.
Does that 6-inch sealed-back midrange speaker help the mids really pop out that much in the mix? Or is that in my imagination?
Thanks.
I'm down to either a GB neox 212T (2x12) OR an Avatar 153. I've heard the GB is really loud and punchy, but I want a cab that gives a sound that I can hear myself in the mix without getting muddy.
Anyone have experience on which cab sits better in a mix? It always seems like my mids get swallowed up and I can't hear myself. And I don't like just hearing a muddy, boomy bass.
Does that 6-inch sealed-back midrange speaker help the mids really pop out that much in the mix? Or is that in my imagination?
Thanks.
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
It depends on the specific cabinet. Any one of those three configurations could provide upfront mids, it just depends on the design.
Any of them, depending on the specific cab used. Some 15"s have aggressive mids, some don't. Same with 2x12 cabs.
