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17 Year Old Bassist, Need Advice!

Yeah, but dudes we could all provide reasons to stay away from our home industries because in today's world we all experience hardships. The only thing you can really do to defend yourself is to ensure you don't keep all your eggs in one basket. The people who truly fall properly on hard times are the ones who fail to have experience in multiple industries, fail to network properly and fail to prepare themselves for the unexpected.

If you got fired this morning how many of you would have a backup plan ready to go for this afternoon?

I work full-time but keep 2 part-time jobs on 'sleep mode'. I can freelance. I'm a qualified cook, barista and bartender, have multiple heavy vehicle licenses and I'm physically fit enough to do manual labour.
By all means, go to music school kid. Live that dream, but don't pidgeonhole yourself. Do a double major with a trade or academic qualification as well, and get a part time job while you're at school.
 
Exactly- I ended up leaving my field to go a related field after my layoff this year, and honestly couldn't be happier doing something different.
Making a living off playing music? I could not imagine being that hungry. People in music are more fickle, and backstabbing than other fields.
Yeah, but dudes we could all provide reasons to stay away from our home industries because in today's world we all experience hardships. The only thing you can really do to defend yourself is to ensure you don't keep all your eggs in one basket. The people who truly fall properly on hard times are the ones who fail to have experience in multiple industries, fail to network properly and fail to prepare themselves for the unexpected.

If you got fired this morning how many of you would have a backup plan ready to go for this afternoon?

I work full-time but keep 2 part-time jobs on 'sleep mode'. I can freelance. I'm a qualified cook, barista and bartender, have multiple heavy vehicle licenses and I'm physically fit enough to do manual labour.
By all means, go to music school kid. Live that dream, but don't pidgeonhole yourself. Do a double major with a trade or academic qualification as well, and get a part time job while you're at school.
 
Get good on the Double Bass (with a bow) - you'll always get work.

This is really great advice. Double bass is a great path for work.

Do you already have any formal music education? Do you play in orchestra/band or sing in choir at High School. My son just started college as a music major and it wasn't easy to get into the school. Multiple auditions, theory tests, etc. He made it in but it was a lot of work.

Theory, sight reading, composition and performance make up the meat and potatoes for a professional musician.

Maybe a college degree in music with a minor in a different subject might be a good idea.

If I were you I would expand my goals beyond just bass. A great place to learn to read music is a choir, especially sight reading.

Good luck and please don't give up on your dreams, but be realistic and work hard.

Practice, read, practice, read ....... repeat.
 
+100

I could not, in good faith, recommend anyone to pursue a music degree in this economic climate.
Yeah, not unless you can afford to live out the old joke about how to make a million dollars playing music (answer: start with two million).
Another 17 year old bassist here... Wondering what reputable brands or dealers carry quality uprights? Something that could last a lifetime... Anyone?
You'd get a lot more info over on the double bass side of the forum. But, Lemur Music is very reputable and they specialize in double basses. Unless a bass is really poorly made from wood that isn't properly seasoned, it should last much longer than a human lifetime. My DB is from 1958, and that's pretty new.
 
I don't believe I've ever seen one of these run for under a thousand. Understandable because I haven't even slightest clue as to how much craftsmanship goes into making these, but I wish I could get ahold of one for a price that a kid my age could afford. Thanks for the help anyways.
 
Another field to stay away from is Architecture. I can tell you as a licensed architect from one of the top schools, the whole field is becoming a commodity. not the great ARTISTIC endeavor that is shown in the media. Jobs are tough to come by and making a living at it sucks. (and this is after 5 years of school (min.) 3 years of working for peanuts as an intern, passing 9 exams and paying lots of dues...for years and years...)
Many other 4-year degrees just aren't worth it, at least with a Vo-Tech type degree you have only invested minimum time and energy if it doesn't pay off, sunk costs are a *****. Become an airplane mechanic or VC technician. (Play music as a hobby/with min. pay)

One never knows what the future will bring.

But you can read the Fountainhead and recall the good times of the field.
 
Yeah, but dudes we could all provide reasons to stay away from our home industries because in today's world we all experience hardships. The only thing you can really do to defend yourself is to ensure you don't keep all your eggs in one basket. The people who truly fall properly on hard times are the ones who fail to have experience in multiple industries, fail to network properly and fail to prepare themselves for the unexpected.

If you got fired this morning how many of you would have a backup plan ready to go for this afternoon?

I work full-time but keep 2 part-time jobs on 'sleep mode'. I can freelance. I'm a qualified cook, barista and bartender, have multiple heavy vehicle licenses and I'm physically fit enough to do manual labour.
By all means, go to music school kid. Live that dream, but don't pidgeonhole yourself. Do a double major with a trade or academic qualification as well, and get a part time job while you're at school.

The part time job at school is a good idea. Not only can it help keep student loan debt down when you graduate you have income while looking.

Plus it quite possible to learn something at this job.
 
I don't believe I've ever seen one of these run for under a thousand. Understandable because I haven't even slightest clue as to how much craftsmanship goes into making these, but I wish I could get ahold of one for a price that a kid my age could afford. Thanks for the help anyways.
I started on an electric upright. You can get one that will bow reasonably under $1K - maybe an Ergo.
 
Don't train to be a bassist. Train to be a flexible musician that can play bass (EB and UR). Understand that you will never know enough theory, or sight read as well as you need to, so make those life-long studies. Any style of music you don't know how to play or don't care about is a lost gig in the future. And remember, every minute you aren't practicing to get better, someone else is.
 
1. Protect your hearing every day, every time. Ear plugs are NOT optional.
You will be asked to play with many IDIOTS- who either play the drums too loud, usually play there guitars WAY too loud, or even sometimes turn up the vocal monitors to a painful limit.
2. Protect your hands- practicing 8 hours a day is stupid and insane and you will pay a price for it down the road. Trust me. Stretch them, and wear gloves in cold weather.

3. Learn keyboards some, as well as Double bass- then you can become a producer down the road and that is WHERE you could make a very sweet living. (as live music is slowly dying other than for the very well known bands)

4. Learn to play well with a PICK AND FINGERS- you will thank me later. Neither is optional regardless of the "advice" you get on this board.

5. What I WOULD DO IN YOUR shoes- get some kind of repair training, electronics, small engines... something that pays OK, but you can fall back on when needed. COuld be 9 months of votech, you don't need a 4-year degree.

6. You aren't playing in a band now? You are NOT very good then. Playing with a band will get you good- correct that ASAP> Bedroom wanking, and band playing are TWO very different things.
7. Learn to read music- in BOTH treble and the BASS clef. You will need both if you want to be a session dude. The days of the non-reading Jamerson's are over.
8. Get in reasonable shape- noone wants to see these 300 pound uber-gals and guys on there stage unless they have no other choice. (other than gangsta rappers/wannabes)

Excellent stuff in this post.

MUSICIANSHIP: Don't just focus on the electric bass. If at all possible, learn the upright bass as well. Also work on the piano, too. It's a tremendous tool for understanding the big picture of music theory and harmony. Skills on guitar can be very helpful, too.

EDUCATION: There are a number of good music schools out there. If you pursue that, great. But you should also educate yourself in the business of music, too. Performance is just one aspect of the music industry. And there is still work out there for people with skills in writing, arranging, producing, recording, management, licensing and law. One university near me with a reputable music major has a curriculum that includes performance as a focus, but also stresses the business aspect of the music industry. A good friend of mine who graduated from that program was a very talented bassist, but was ultimately able to make a career for himself in music management thanks to that education.

And it can be very beneficial to you to have some significant skills in IT. Some of those skills can cross over into music related work, and it's an industry that is very much in demand in non-music related business.

JOBS: There's more to the music business than playing in a band or being a session musician. Even the legendary session musicians of the 1970's and 1980's are having a much more difficult time making a living from that sort of work alone. See Bass Player Magazine's recent article on session legend Will Lee if you don't believe me.

If you want to make music your life, you need to immerse yourself. So if you need a day job, try finding something in musical instrument sales, backline rentals, management, live sound, or a recording/rehearsal studio. Putting yourself in situations like that can open on the possibilities for some opportunities.
 
from a non-musician's view. grow a "thick skin" and learn to keep your emotions under control. you are going to be in good situations, bad situations and everything in between. you need to learn what you can from each and not let negatives affect any positives. you will be in bands with unhappy people and see people get fired, you will probably get fired a few times yourself, and you can't let these things get to you. be a solid musician, reliable, a team player, respectful and never bring drama with you or get involved in anyone else's drama.
on paper it may sound easy but in reality it can be tough. if you really love it, give it a shot! good luck
 
Performance is just one aspect of the music industry. And there is still work out there for people who skills in writing, arranging, producing, recording, management, licensing and law.
Also DJing, which is a good part-time job to have in college. Also software development is a viable full-time music career now. For example, look at what skills Native Instruments are looking for - C++, sample library expertise, Kontakt scripting etc. That's a real frontier of the music industry, but a lot of what really matters there is understanding and emulating the behavior of real people playing real instruments - so being able to play bass, DB, guitar etc. is a very valuable asset.
 
Don't train to be a bassist. Train to be a flexible musician that can play bass (EB and UR). Understand that you will never know enough theory, or sight read as well as you need to, so make those life-long studies. Any style of music you don't know how to play or don't care about is a lost gig in the future. And remember, every minute you aren't practicing to get better, someone else is.

If I read this paragraph 40 years ago (I'm 56 btw) I would be a happy, professional musician today (instead of a happy, professional forklift operator)...please OP, take note!
 

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