Not for you no. Again this isnt a black and white thing here. It's silly to see it this way. You mean to tell me you dont know of any asocial kids who spend all their time on their computers and have no friends or girlfriends? Hm...
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17 year old curfew
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Not for you no. Again this isnt a black and white thing here. It's silly to see it this way. You mean to tell me you dont know of any asocial kids who spend all their time on their computers and have no friends or girlfriends? Hm...
It's not either or. There is a world outside of your experiences.
And you keep implying that I'm a hard curfew at 11:00 guy which I've clearly posted that I'm not. Let's be done.
Am I? All of those things happened to me....in high school. The kids in my school had plenty of access to booze and drugs. I don't know about the high school kids in AZ, but I've met very few who "really dislike generally" booze and pot. Why are you more severely influenced in college, rather than high school? I'm sorry, but now you're just twisting reality in order to prove your point.
None other than you.
I did know some asocial kids, but none of them were asocial because they had a curfew. Actually, the two most poplar kids in my high school had pretty strict parents. Staying out late wasn't a prerequisite for coolness in my town, I guess.
Enlighten me then, what is it??
No im not implying that, I'm staying on topic and relating my argument to the original post in this thread, using it as an example.
None other than you.
Wouldn't that make your day
Its not a matter of coolness, its a matter of real friends. Popular kids? They have, in general, NO real friends. There's a clear distinction between friends and school buddies imo.
I have two daughters, 17 and 19. Neither have ever been a problem. We always took the attitude that we were raising adults, not children. Kids want responsibiloity and want to be trusted. Give it to them. Allow them to grow and learn how to act responsibly.
We have less of a curfew than an understanding that the last train home is at 00:30 am. Miss than and dad is not impressed with heading downtown. Also, kids can get into bars legally at 16 in Switzerland. They seem to handle it well and not get wasted, at least my kids didn't.
I think it's a bit different for girls in that personal safety is an issue and they're aware of that. We have succeeded in not having any battles. We treat the girls like adults and they respond accordingly. Both of them have flown across the Atlantic on their own since they were 15, dealing with connections at ugly airports like Heathrow.
Raise kids with respsct. Challenge them. Help them to become confident and responsible and you and you won't have any issues.
We have less of a curfew than an understanding that the last train home is at 00:30 am. Miss than and dad is not impressed with heading downtown. Also, kids can get into bars legally at 16 in Switzerland. They seem to handle it well and not get wasted, at least my kids didn't.
I think it's a bit different for girls in that personal safety is an issue and they're aware of that. We have succeeded in not having any battles. We treat the girls like adults and they respond accordingly. Both of them have flown across the Atlantic on their own since they were 15, dealing with connections at ugly airports like Heathrow.
Raise kids with respsct. Challenge them. Help them to become confident and responsible and you and you won't have any issues.
You know we've been arguing for like 3 pages on the topic of kid's social life vs parents peace of mind and suddenly you stop arguing about it and say its all about something else without telling me what that something else is? Kinda confusing...
Wouldn't that make your day
Its not a matter of coolness, its a matter of real friends. Popular kids? They have, in general, NO real friends. There's a clear distinction between friends and school buddies imo.
No, I couldn't care less.
Again, your assumption is quite wrong. My group of friends, which included the two "cool kids" still talks quite frequently, even though we now all live in different time zones. One of my friends just came to visit last month with his wife and kid.
As Jim said, their IS a whole world outside of your limited experience.
Kids can have a social life and still let their parents know when to expect them. And I would agree you appear confused.
I'm seriously done.
No, I couldn't care less.
Again, your assumption is quite wrong. My group of friends, which included the two "cool kids" still talks quite frequently, even though we now all live in different time zones. One of my friends just came to visit last month with his wife and kid.
As Jim said, their IS a whole world outside of your limited experience.
If you couldnt care less why did you mention it in the first place?
And one outside of yours, since you seem quite fond of referring to your own experience as a universal truth
Kids can have a social life and still let their parents know when to expect them. And I would agree you appear confused.
I'm seriously done.
Yes, they can, but again, that depends on the time of the curfew, and a time set at 11pm is IMHO quite harsh for the kid to establish strong social relations at an early age.
If you couldnt care less why did you mention it in the first place?
And one outside of yours, since you seem quite fond of referring to your own experience as a universal truth
Then you should read my posts again. I simply offer my experiences as a counterpoints to you quite general statements.
I though so. Well, you're a cool guy in my book.
-Mike
Thanks! Right back at you, I like a good sense of humor
Even someone with limited experience can make general statements. Actually, it helps.
Are we debating semantics now? I've made my points. I'll quit for now, unless we resume with the topic at hand.
I guess it all depends on who has the limited experience then
You're 33 and havent seen a school in 10 years. I'm 21 and still IN school. relating to the topic at hand, which is about a guy who is 4 years younger than me, I'd say my experience relates best to his. 
