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1964 Ears Owners Group

#21
The IEMs should fit like a glove. Definitely get a new set of molds by a different audiologist who has experience with musician's plugs. When pouring the goop into your ears, there are different sized wedges they will insert into your mouth depending on whether you will be singing with the IEMs - or not. The opening of your mouth will affect the tightness of the ear canal, and corresponding dimensions of the IEMs. Be sure to factor that into the process.

In 1999 I had a set of Westtone musician's earplugs made and used them all the time - not just for music, but underneath sound reduction earmuffs when I'm mowing or shooting. Two years ago I noticed the fit had become loose. Apparently they shrank or my ears changed. At any rate, I went to the audiologist and had another pair made. I suspect this will also happen in 5-10 years with the IEMs I got last year. Just a cost of enjoying the benefits - like having to repaint the house every so often.
 
#22
overbybr said:
I had never considered the price difference between acoustic treatment vs. high-end IEMs, but depending on your "studio" space and what you would spend on monitors and treatment, the V6's or the V8's may be a frugal choice.
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To be sure, my 'poor man's solution' would be unacceptable to a professional mixing or mastering engineer. But that's not my particular sandbox, so yes, indeed, the IEMs' cost was a drop in the bucket compared to creating a high-end professional sound environment. And it's not just the acoustic wall treatment that's in that cost - it also includes modifying the all-windows environment of my room, hardwood floor treatments, high end monitors, eliminating buzzing in the rafters, pro-level mixing desk, paying for a pro to come in and calibrate the equipment, etc. IEMs are definitely "good enough" for my purposes.
 
#23
N. Kentucky Bass said:
And it's not just the acoustic wall treatment that's in that cost - it also includes modifying the all-windows environment of my room, hardwood floor treatments, high end monitors, eliminating buzzing in the rafters, pro-level mixing desk, paying for a pro to come in and calibrate the equipment, etc. IEMs are definitely "good enough" for my purposes.
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Even if you went DIY and made your own gear, I have to imagine that the V6, V6-S, or V8 models would still be a good price option. You can buy acoustic insulation/foam and build absorption panels, bass traps, and diffusers. You can make or convert a desk to be capable of housing recording equipment, but you (probably) can't make high quality reference monitors for cheap. Good monitors alone would price more than the top 3 products from 1964 Ears.

I still want to make my own acoustic treatment, mostly because I think it would be fun...

This is off-topic from this thread, but people spend too much money on mixing gear and then put it in a room with horrible acoustics. I'd take a set of Behringer monitors in a well treated room over a pair of Meyer Reference monitors in a poorly treated room any day
 
#24
Here are mine:

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Starting using them last year and I have about 60 gigs with them under my belt. Very happy with them, although GAS dictates that I wonder what the V6 or V8 models sound like. My guitarist/singer has gone from being totally against IEMS, to playing with one ear bud (shures), to using both Ear buds and is now gone the custom IEM route and is awaiting a V6 pair.

In retrospect, I would now opt to go for a clear finish without the artwork.

Props to 1964 ears - great customer service.
 
#29
Find the thread by UBass on the differences with the V6s and the V8s. Good points to consider.

However, one of our worship leaders at church just replaced his IEMS with V8s and he swears they are the best IEMs by far that he's ever used (The V8s were his first set of 1964 IEMs, he hasn't tried the V6s, so there's that...:o).
 
#32
mrharrell said:
Jason, how are the lows in those V3s? I'm caught between Quads or V3s. I don't need thundering bass, I just want a smooth almost flat response across the board.
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I'm not Jason, but I've been told by the fellow at 1964 that the V6s are more intended for the audiophile (and audio mixing, I guess) listening experience. The V6 Stage is better suited for musicians' use.
 
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mrharrell said:
Jason, how are the lows in those V3s? I'm caught between Quads or V3s. I don't need thundering bass, I just want a smooth almost flat response across the board.
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The lows are very nice on the v3s. Definitely plenty for me. I ordered them right when the V3s came out, and at that time there were no V6s or V8s. At that time the V3s were the model known for being the most accurate or "flat". The Quads definitely have a big bump in the lows. 1964 Ears used to have the frequency response graphs on the website and you could definitely see the difference in flat response vs accentiated lows when comparing the V3 vs the Quads.

Before my 1964 Ears I used the universal fit Westone UM3s (triple driver like the V3s) and the V3s have much more bass response. This is probably moreso due to comparing custom fit vs universal though because the seal you get with custom fit in ears will give you more low end off the bat.
 
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#34
Geri O said:
I'm not Jason, but I've been told by the fellow at 1964 that the V6s are more intended for the audiophile (and audio mixing, I guess) listening experience. The V6 Stage is better suited for musicians' use.
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Yep, if the V6 Stage had been available back when I ordered that would probably be what I would go with. I'm very happy with my V3s though.
 
#35
vision said:
Yep, if the V6 Stage had been available back when I ordered that would probably be what I would go with. I'm very happy with my V3s though.
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I understand, Vision. We have a guitarist with a set of V3s he's had for a while (He turned me on to 1964) and even though there's a few sets of newer this and that, he still loves his V3s. And he uses them at least once a week and sometimes 2 or 3, depending on his gigging schedule (Awesome avatar, btw...)
 
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#38
Ok, so on American Idol or The Voice (I can't remember which one) I saw what appeared to be an L-shaped connector where the wire connects to the IEMs. I really like the idea and want to know where I can get one. Any one seen these?

That's probably my only complaint about IEM's in general. The bend from where the wire meets the IEM and around the ears seems a little to rigid. Mine actually stick out a little no matter how hard of a bend I give them.
 

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