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1x15 w/ 6" driver like a modular Berg NV215 ??

pfschim

pfschim

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#1
Looked/searched around a bit before posting and see some prior threads in a similar vein, but not quite what I want to ask.

I am really interested in using an all tube head (like my Mesa Buster 200) to drive a new/old school cab like a Berg NV215. But after reading some threads here about modularity (particularly Chef's use of Mesa 1x15's with his Walkabout head) and the craziness of lugging a 2x15 cab in this day and age of lighter well designed gear, I got to thinking about whether or not you could find a sealed 1x15 with a 6" or so mid driver that would be like "1/2 a Berg" ??

I did see some posts about the Dr Bass 1508 cabs and I am aware of LDS custom builds, but are there other cabs avail in this kind of format.

Also, I would expect to get 2 of these cabs so I could use one or both depending on the gig. So, would there be any issues with using 2 cabs with mid drivers in them ?

I'm interested in what seems to be referred to on TB as new, or updated-old school tone; thumpy with plenty of low end (hence the 15's) solid low mids and good mid presence, but not a very "hi-fi" or tweet heavy, super clean sound. I do want tubey saturation/compression, even a bit of bloom, but not distortion or too much grind.

Besides the Buster, I would also want to drive these cabs with my Walkabout head.

So, anyone want to offer some view points on this ?
 
#3
I understand what U R saying.... but the NV215 is a REALLY easy cab to move. FAR easier than ANY 410 I've tried & I find it as easy as lifting & moving my EV 1x15". The design of the NV215(I've got a NV610-same size cab but a tiny bit heavier than the 215 IIRC) with the wheels, makes it a breeze to move. I rarely have to lift it at all. Just roll to the place/stage, tilt, & push it on stage, then tilt it upright. IMO I'd say it's a toss up between the 1x15" & the NV cab(215 or 610) as to say which is easier to move. I suppose if I put casters on the EV115 then we'd be talking different tho! ;-)
 
#4
Not exactly what you are looking for, but I have something similar. In the lower right corner you will see my home made Dual Showman Reverb above a 1x15 + 1x6 LDS (ported).

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I use it with both my Showman and my Ampeg V-4B. It has an Eminence Kappalite 3015 and a B&C 6MDN44 in a 27" x 24" x 16" box. It is ideal for my playing situations. Exactly the updated old school sound you describe. In fact, in many ways it sounds like a more efficient version of my Acme cabs, without quite the same extension in either direction. Perfect for 4 string playing through tube heads.
 
#7
Why sealed? In this application ported will give better results, if done correctly.

alexclaber's suggestion is similar to what I'll build when the drivers get here. I'm gonna build two so I can use them as mains on other gigs. I'm going active, but want to do a passive xover design so I can experiment with single amps.
 
#11
I'm interested in what seems to be referred to on TB as new, or updated-old school tone; thumpy with plenty of low end (hence the 15's) solid low mids and good mid presence, but not a very "hi-fi" or tweet heavy, super clean sound. I do want tubey saturation/compression, even a bit of bloom, but not distortion or too much grind.
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Actualy that is about how I'd describe the Avatar 2x12 ... particularly if you pad the tweeter down.
 
#12
I'm interested in what seems to be referred to on TB as new, or updated-old school tone; thumpy with plenty of low end (hence the 15's) solid low mids and good mid presence, but not a very "hi-fi" or tweet heavy, super clean sound. I do want tubey saturation/compression, even a bit of bloom, but not distortion or too much grind.
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Actualy that is about how I'd describe the Avatar 2x12 ... particularly if you pad the tweeter down. The mid drivers are extraneous for the tone you're after IMO / IME / YMMV ...
 
#15
Crockettnj said:
That should be terrific. Some reference was made to this setup in Greenboys Carvin boutique thread.

are those 18sounds tough to get?
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I'm essentially building the same thing as alex, but a 2x15 with a 6" midrange. Ported with separate chambers for the 15s and the 6 sealed in the upper chamber because I'm retrofitting them into an existing 2x15 Peavey cab. I'm using the 3015LFs and the 6ND410. I easily got both off loudspeakersplus.com last night. Look around for my recent threads.
 
#16
Crockettnj said:
That should be terrific. Some reference was made to this setup in Greenboys Carvin boutique thread.
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Hmmm...sounds familiar.;)

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But I have to say, this is very far away from Old School vibe IMHO. If you want the Berg sound, just get a Berg.


are those 18sounds tough to get?

Nope. Click [Invalid or Expired Link Removed].
 
#17
Passinwind said:
Hmmm...sounds familiar.;)

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But I have to say, this is very far away from Old School vibe IMHO. If you want the Berg sound, just get a Berg.


are those 18sounds tough to get?

Nope. Click [Invalid or Expired Link Removed].
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You gotta love the 'time alignment' possibilities here. Want your mid's a little more foreward ? The solution is obvious :D

(I was looking for an emoticon that illustrated 'toung in cheek' but all I could find was a Linda Lovelace one that seemed inappropriate...)

IMO - there is nothing old school sounding about adding a 6" mid driver to a 15... truly good old school rigs had / have plenty of upper mids - enough to get a nice crisp definition - where they generally lacked was in the very low end, that and of course power and power handling ...

I'm looking forward to hearing Charlie's 1x15 home brew on it's own at some point.
 
#18
Ah, Passinwind, but with no HF section and a little EQ it's not that tough to get some of the many Old Skool sounds.

Anyway, here's my modular approach. Curently not using the LS1503 horn in spite of its vast qualitative advance over what's in bass cabs - just the Em 3015LF woof and 18sound 6ND410 midrange cone. And maybe if I want to be too loud, I add the bottom cab ; }

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