Looks like it might look nicer if you turn the Berg counterclockwise. The speaker orientation will be almost the same, but the Berg is a little taller than it is wide. The V4B should fit perfectly, and the Berg already has feet on that left side.
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2013 Ampeg V-4B 100W Reissue Pt2
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Looks like it might look nicer if you turn the Berg counterclockwise. The speaker orientation will be almost the same, but the Berg is a little taller than it is wide. The V4B should fit perfectly, and the Berg already has feet on that left side.
I know what you mean. I was using my V4B with an Orange 212 and it didn't quite fit over it. Even though I liked its sound I ended up selling rhe Orange cab and getting the Ampeg Svt 212 av. I absolutely love it...
Burwabit
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Good suggestion. I mainly did it this way so I didn't have to bend so far. I grabbed my amp stand today so I'll try the Berg on end when I gig it.
Trouble is, if you put the cab up on a stand, it won't couple with the floor properly. You'll save a little bending over, but you'll lose tone.
I have played my V4B with my NV115 too, but put the cab on its side which is a perfect fit with no overhang. I am inclined to agree with you though, while the NV115 sounds nice with the V4B it is a better match with my Orange AD200. I think that cab needs a few more watts to sing. But the V4B just shines into a pair of 210AVs, and even into the 410hlf which isn't my favourite Ampeg cab but sounds wonderful with the V4B. Like you I feel a 212AV on the horizon though, that cab just keeps on calling me.
Burwabit
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Glad to hear from someone else who has this combo. Maybe I'll gig it with an NV610 instead, even though it's a haul for a bar gig.
I've read on here where some others have paired the V4B Reissue with the NV610 and really like it. Maybe you'll like that combination better than the NV115? I currently run mine through the SVT 212AV and love it. I'll be adding a 2nd one soon and that will cover all my needs.
Me too, but as long as those 210av's keep sounding like they do, I'm probably going to just stick with them. Might use the 410he I just got with it, too, but the load is more attractive with the 210av's
Just used one of them on my gig earlier tonight. Killed.
I can say without reservation that in 40 years of playing bass the new V4B through a 212AV is one of the best sounding rigs I've ever used.
Burwabit
Likes guitars that tune good and firm feelin women
confirmed. However, I'm going to bite the bullet and order the 212AV. Consensus says it's the way to go, and I'm drinking the koolaid.
I was surprised to see that the low freq. for the 212AV is 71 Hz while the 210AV is 58 Hz, especially since the 212AV is ported. Ampeg's site doesn't have SPL figures for the 210.
Do not let that throw you. In both cases, that is the -3db point and not the -10db point that most other companies list as the lowest usable frequency. The -10db point of each is 40hz. But to my ears, the 212av has a stronger low end. Honestly, I'd like to sit down with one of each and figure out what the tonal differences really are, but that's how the 212av comes across to me. Definitely a case where raw frequency specs don't tell the whole story.
Yep the spec #'s threw me at first. Haven't ever tried the 210AVs to compare but I play 5 string J or P thru my V4B+212AV and I get plenty of nice lowend from this rig. I like to use the Ultra-lo and keep the gain/volume knobs @ noon-2:00 at most. I use mine in med-large bars for loud blues-rock band with and without PA support.
Just got the V-4B this week. Only limited time on it so far. Hoping to dig in with my first all-tube bass amp this weekend. I have Mesa 2x10 4x10 and 1x15 to try it out with. So far the 410 seems the smoothest with the most low end as well. Super usable EQ, no noise, Aw yeah.
I'm really intrigued by the V4B re-issue and have been reading a lot about it here on Talkbass. My main rig is a Fender Super Bassman through two 212AVs and I'm loving the tone and power of that rig. Moving away from hybrids to an all tube head has been a very, very good move for me. The Mesa Walkabout that I had been using has been collecting dust. I usually carry it with me to gigs as a back-up, but fortunately haven't had to use it. It's a great sounding, high quality head that I like a lot - but I'm finding all tubes is where it's at for me at this point in my life. I really, really like some of the YouTube clips of the V4B and have been thinking of selling the Mesa to a friend who's always had his eye on that head and getting a V4B. That would give me a pretty good set of options - a 300W head and a 100W head through one or both of the 212AV cabs.
The biggest concern is around volume, so curious as to what I should expect there - the last thing I'd want is to gig that head and get drowned out by the band. We play moderately loud blues/southern rock/country (and push into the just plain loud category at times). Most of the time we play without PA support for the bass and about 50%/50% indoor/outdoor gigs with audiences maybe up to 100 people. The Walkabout through my 412s has been plenty in the past, if that tells you anything. I prefer a semi-clean tone for a lot of what we do, but don't mind getting some overdrive in there as we push into more of the rock oriented stuff and volume starts to creep up.
The only other downside is that I still want to carry two amps to the gig, in case I have a problem. The V4B is a bit bigger than the Walkabout in it's head-case and maybe twice as heavy. I don't mind the schlep, typically. Maybe I'll keep the WA and save up for the V4B over time.
Thoughts?
The biggest concern is around volume, so curious as to what I should expect there - the last thing I'd want is to gig that head and get drowned out by the band. We play moderately loud blues/southern rock/country (and push into the just plain loud category at times). Most of the time we play without PA support for the bass and about 50%/50% indoor/outdoor gigs with audiences maybe up to 100 people. The Walkabout through my 412s has been plenty in the past, if that tells you anything. I prefer a semi-clean tone for a lot of what we do, but don't mind getting some overdrive in there as we push into more of the rock oriented stuff and volume starts to creep up.
The only other downside is that I still want to carry two amps to the gig, in case I have a problem. The V4B is a bit bigger than the Walkabout in it's head-case and maybe twice as heavy. I don't mind the schlep, typically. Maybe I'll keep the WA and save up for the V4B over time.
Thoughts?
Here's how I describe the volume difference between the V4B and SVT, though I guess you could sub out the Super Bassman if you absolutely have to :
Both will get way too loud for my band, but I only start to feel like I'm going to throw up with the SVT cranked hard while I can keep my lunch with the V4B.
:Both will get way too loud for my band, but I only start to feel like I'm going to throw up with the SVT cranked hard while I can keep my lunch with the V4B.
Yes, stellars amps. I bought my reissue a few weeks back and have really been enamored with it. Coincidentally enough, while I've been a long time Ampeg fan I had never gotten the opportunity to play an original V4. The weekend I got my V4B I was at one of my bands rehearsal spots and talking to the guitarist (who's a vintage gear snob (self-proclaimed)). I mentioned I picked up the reissued V4 and he said, "oh man, you should've told me...I've got an original here in the barn." I thought, holy hell, I've gone from never playing one ever to playing the original V4 and V4B in a span of two days.
The original, to my ears at my settings, sounded very similar to the V4B...very similar. Funny thing is that V4B had just been sitting and sitting for at least over a decade in an uninsulated barn, non-climate controlled. We pulled it out, fired it up, moved the pots back and forth a few times and it sounded like gold. He had mentioned he rarely used it for guitar because it would melt your face off with volume. So now, that old V4 has turned into my permanent cross town rehearsal amp and I don't have to lug my new V4B out there. Money!
The original, to my ears at my settings, sounded very similar to the V4B...very similar. Funny thing is that V4B had just been sitting and sitting for at least over a decade in an uninsulated barn, non-climate controlled. We pulled it out, fired it up, moved the pots back and forth a few times and it sounded like gold. He had mentioned he rarely used it for guitar because it would melt your face off with volume. So now, that old V4 has turned into my permanent cross town rehearsal amp and I don't have to lug my new V4B out there. Money!
