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3 ways America should be more like Canada

that may well be,but that is not going to change any time soon.....you have to do what you can with the available resources,and the whole " make the rich pay" thing is not going to fly where you are or where i am.....
It would if the overwhelming majority were slightly more sensible and realistic about their likelihood of reaching the top 1%.
 
It would if the overwhelming majority were slightly more sensible and realistic about their likelihood of reaching the top 1%.
it appears that you have a very naive view of who runs things....i did too,when i was young....the people who run things are never going to give up control.....even if you could wave a magic wand and create a utopia tomorrow,they would come and take it back.....no one is even going to get close to upsetting the apple cart....ever....perhaps a little history primer is required.....they didn't call them robber barons for nothing....
 
it appears that you have a very naive view of who runs things....i did too,when i was young....the people who run things are never going to give up control.....even if you could wave a magic wand and create a utopia tomorrow,they would come and take it back.....no one is even going to get close to upsetting the apple cart....ever....perhaps a little history primer is required.....they didn't call them robber barons for nothing....
While I appreciate the ankle grabbing approach you're advocating, I disagree it's the only available path or outcome.
 
While I appreciate the ankle grabbing approach you're advocating, I disagree it's the only available path or outcome.
maybe when you can fill the rose bowl with a tenth as many activists as the big game gets...having lived through all the upheavals of the 60's i can be confident...ain't gonna happen.....like hunter thompson wrote......you can practically see the high water mark of those times from vegas as they receded....the counterculture turned into just another marketing opportunity,for the same people the counter culture opposed.........until the "revolution" come you will be grabbing your ankles.....and by the time you're my age,you'll probably learn that the more stuff you got,the less often you'll have to grab 'em......oh,this just in.....revolution pre-empted by dancing with the stars....
 
maybe when you can fill the rose bowl with a tenth as many activists as the big game gets...having lived through all the upheavals of the 60's i can be confident...ain't gonna happen.....like hunter thompson wrote......you can practically see the high water mark of those times from vegas as they receded....the counterculture turned into just another marketing opportunity,for the same people the counter culture opposed.........until the "revolution" come you will be grabbing your ankles.....and by the time you're my age,you'll probably learn that the more stuff you got,the less often you'll have to grab 'em......oh,this just in.....revolution pre-empted by dancing with the stars....
You mean the 60's that domestically accomplished medical coverage for all seniors? The 60's that passed a civil rights act that gave power to disenfranchised minorities? Neither of those strike me as keeping in the interests of the "elites."
 
I can totally see Jim's point here, as it has proven itself many times over.

That doesn't mean "give up and grab your ankles". Small steps forward have been made, over many, many years, yet "they" have managed to co-opt those as well.

His point about filling the Rosebowl with 1/10th as many activists as you can sportsfans especially rings true.
 
I can totally see Jim's point here, as it has proven itself many times over.

That doesn't mean "give up and grab your ankles". Small steps forward have been made, over many, many years, yet "they" have managed to co-opt those as well.

His point about filling the Rosebowl with 1/10th as many activists as you can sportsfans especially rings true.
"Bread and circuses" is an effective distraction, no doubt. It doesn't mean it's bulletproof.
 
"Bread and circuses" is an effective distraction, no doubt. It doesn't mean it's bulletproof.


I would like to think it isn't bulletproof, and it isn't. It does, however, take a lot more "stick to it-ivness" and cohesiveness than we as a society currently have.

Give the people food, entertainment, and distractions and they will be sufficiently fed, entertained, and distracted so as not to interfere with us at the top.

The sad thing is, this happens voluntarily and most people don't have a problem with it. They would rather have it like that....it requires less effort.
 
I would like to think it isn't bulletproof, and it isn't. It does, however, take a lot more "stick to it-ivness" and cohesiveness than we as a society currently have.

Give the people food, entertainment, and distractions and they will be sufficiently fed, entertained, and distracted so as not to interfere with us at the top.

The sad thing is, this happens voluntarily and most people don't have a problem with it. They would rather have it like that....it requires less effort.

A real time matrix so to speak
 
You mean the 60's that domestically accomplished medical coverage for all seniors? The 60's that passed a civil rights act that gave power to disenfranchised minorities? Neither of those strike me as keeping in the interests of the "elites."
maybe have a look at the evolution of corporations....they are near bulletproof......yes a few things positive happen,but it's astronomical effort for a few steps forward.....and that was 1964.....if you start looking back to the freedom rides and lunch counter sit ins you notice that it did not happen over night and pre dated even the earliest hippydips....
 
That "Caribbean country" you mention was, of course, France; bastion of the free market and unfettered capitalism.:|

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exile_on_Main_St.

You're right- I was thinking of someone else. I recently read about the chateau they recorded in, but that slipped past me. OTOH, Thursday afternoon/evening, I thought it was Friday and when I woke up the next morning, I thought it was Saturday before checking the date on my computer. That was kind of scary.
 
I never liked the name "Canada"..........as soon as you say it you want to put your long underwear on....

They could have called it "Yukonica"...but that sounds too much like a camera.....

We used to be called simply "The Colonies".....visiting British dignitaries would marvel at how us simpletons lived.

Now there are just 4 regions here......

(1) Back East
(2) The Prairies
(3) Out West
(4) Up North
 
I never liked the name "Canada"..........as soon as you say it you want to put your long underwear on....

They could have called it "Yukonica"...but that sounds too much like a camera.....

We used to be called simply "The Colonies".....visiting British dignitaries would marvel at how us simpletons lived.

Now there are just 4 regions here......

(1) Back East
(2) The Prairies
(3) Out West
(4) Up North


The fishing is always better Up North.
 
Canada just doesn't get the limelight like the States.

Ever notice how Chris Hadfield (our astronaut) couldn't get any attention at all while he was up there in space..?......so every few days he'd come up with some attention-getting gimmick
to draw the public's eye.......and still nobody gave a damn.....

His desperation was , in a word , embarrassing.........
 
I would like to think it isn't bulletproof, and it isn't. It does, however, take a lot more "stick to it-ivness" and cohesiveness than we as a society currently have.

Give the people food, entertainment, and distractions and they will be sufficiently fed, entertained, and distracted so as not to interfere with us at the top.

The sad thing is, this happens voluntarily and most people don't have a problem with it. They would rather have it like that....it requires less effort.
The middle class is a natural buffer for the rich. As the middle class shrinks so does their protection from less pleasant revolutions. It's in their best interest long term to inverse the trend we're currently seeing.
maybe have a look at the evolution of corporations....they are near bulletproof......yes a few things positive happen,but it's astronomical effort for a few steps forward.....and that was 1964.....if you start looking back to the freedom rides and lunch counter sit ins you notice that it did not happen over night and pre dated even the earliest hippydips....
I agree that the "rights" of corporations should be reviewed. They're not people. They shouldn't have the rights of people. The people who run them already have rights.
You're right- I was thinking of someone else. I recently read about the chateau they recorded in, but that slipped past me. OTOH, Thursday afternoon/evening, I thought it was Friday and when I woke up the next morning, I thought it was Saturday before checking the date on my computer. That was kind of scary.
Those are the scary days, when you're already relieved it's the weekend and you can sleep in only to discover that you've still got a full day ahead of you.
 
I agree with the *prudent application* of money spent on education. A lower ratio of students per teacher AND a sound philosophy of education would go a long way.

Three things are always mentioned as the fundamentals of a good education system:

1. attracting good quality people to teach (requires a decent salary)
2. class size
3. class composition

Teaching is a very stressful, difficult job with a myriad of challenges educators face every day.
Class size and composition -my wife is a teacher, she would be pissed if I commented but here goes.
Class size - they usually start her at 28(first day) but it quickly ratchets up to 33-34. Every year, same thing. That wouldn't be bad but everybody is about "least restrictive environment" and "no child left behind". So she has a class with 6 E.I(educationally impaired)the rest relatively "normal" children. The stories she tells me don't sound like it's a good environment for anyone. One of the EI boys is HUGE - 12 yrs. old, 5'5+, maybe 160 lbs. He crawls under his desk, makes noises,wets himself and about once a week has to be "physically managed" by staff that are certified for that. Send him to the EI teacher - he throws an entire desk through a plate glass window or at least tries. Another girl smear feces all over the bathroom. How the heck can you teach with that going on?
I feel bad for the EI kids - some are just 5% off from normal, they could be productive with some additional help. But some are like 25% "off", what to do?

I'm not sure salary is SO terrible, it just kind of stinks in light of class size and composition. A MAster's helps once you have a job as it increases pay, but it makes you less desirable for changing jobs, since another district doesn't necessarily want to take on a high-wage employee.
And the tax deduction for what teacher's spend on their class - here in USA that has been knocked down to $250/yr. When we did our taxes my wife came up with a little over $3k she had spent on her class, never to be compensated. Back when the tax deduction was better it often was close to $5k.

I would agree with the social commentary that we really don't need a terribly educate populace. Just like we don't "need" a physically strong and hardy populace - mankind has struggled for centuries to make life easier, we now have arrived.
 
I'm open to closing tax loopholes and cutting military spending. That should easily pay for all the bus passes you'd need.

A lot of it stems from the short-sighted "more is always better" business mentality that just looks to cut costs and maximize profit as much as possible in the short term while ignoring both the business and societal impact of this practice long term. There is a whole lot more "I'm going to get as much as I can as fast as I can and screw the other guy" mentality and far less of the "we're all in this together" mentality.
There used to be patriotism in keeping jobs domestic, providing work for your countryman.Our rich would have to be forced into that, it just wouldn't be profitable.
Give the people food, entertainment, and distractions and they will be sufficiently fed, entertained, and distracted so as not to interfere with us at the top.
The sad thing is, this happens voluntarily and most people don't have a problem with it. They would rather have it like that....it requires less effort.
Of course - not everyone wants to be a rocket scientist. Some of the people living a simpler lifestyle isn't a major problem but there are the occasional ones who want out of that cage but find they can't. If you happen to be a minority then some of this is compounded from forces internal and external.
"Living for the City" ~ Stevie Wonder
Her brother's smart he's got more sense than many
His patience's long but soon he won't have any
To find a job is like a haystack needle
Cause where he lives they don't use colored people