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36 SVT's?!?!?! How?!!!!
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That was 40 years ago though, when PA technology was still in its infancy. You needed that much horsepower because no venues had PAs that could do rock SPLs. The guitarist and bass player blasted away with their stacks and left the drums and vocals to whatever US Navy leftovers and Altec cabinets the venue had, or the local promoter could slap together.
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oh, by the way. in my previous post when i mentioned that i used two SVT's at the La Sports Arena in the 80's. The guitarist in my band (and still one of my best friend's today) was Rusty Anderson. While I used two complete SVT rigs, he was using a fender champ (8 watts RMS)!
Two SVT's are loud enough for any gig.
Indoor or outdoor.
The rest must be dummy's?
I seen "Pino" with the Who.
Two SVT-R's plenty loud.
Rusty Anderson is/was clearly a very smart man. With a good P.A., anything more than 50 watts per guitarist onstage is overkill.
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he's also an incredible guitarist. as Paul once said, when introducing him at one of his concerts, "He really knows his way around that thing".
Are you sure? Cause you'd have to be pretty high to think it's a good idea to bring 36 SVT's on the road.
Note the " "
For all the whining about excessive stage volume, muddy sound, and mic bleed, is there honestly ONE person on here who would turn down the opportunity to rock 36 (or heck, even 12) SVT rigs at once, provided that you have a fleet of roadies to set them up and move them? I sure as heck would.
Of COURSE it was more than necessary. Nobody would argue that. However, hair metal bands were generally more interested in putting on a show than they were about making sense.
Or good music, for that matter.
Of COURSE it was more than necessary. Nobody would argue that. However, hair metal bands were generally more interested in putting on a show than they were about making sense.
Or good music, for that matter.
If I had the chance, I'd do it... I mean, I really want another 8x10 cab to complete my setup, but it is kinda impossible right now... Now, If I had that 2xSVT 4x810 rig... I would be a happy camper, ha ha ha ha ha. Massive destruction weapons
I'm seriously thinking about taking my SVT out for my gig tomorrow. I just got the head back from the shop and it's kicking much ass. Only problem is it's a 500-seater and my B-15 is overkill for the room But man, it sounds so dang good now!!!
But man, it sounds so dang good now!!!
Yes!
I'm seriously thinking about taking my SVT out for my gig tomorrow. I just got the head back from the shop and it's kicking much ass. Only problem is it's a 500-seater and my B-15 is overkill for the room
Do it!!!
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I'm seriously thinking about taking my SVT out for my gig tomorrow. I just got the head back from the shop and it's kicking much ass. Only problem is it's a 500-seater and my B-15 is overkill for the room
Glad its back and up and runnin' Jimmy. I would take it to the gig. heck, at 500 seats that's less than 1 watt per seat.
Welp, it's official...already loaded it into the van for tomorrow's gig! First time I'll be using it in almost 12 years! I'm not looking forward to the deadlift, but I sure am looking forward to the sweetness!!! Now the only question is do I use the SVT channel or the Baxandall channel? The SVT channel is sweet, but the Baxandall channel sounds more like my B-15's. Oh well, I guess I can use both and switch them out Yay for me!
Yay for me!
Sure I have. Never mixed a guy with 36 SVT's going, but I certainly wouldn't let it slow me down. If that's what the guy needs to do his job, that's what he needs and it ain't my call to tell him otherwise. As far as Nikki's concerned, if you don't take the gig, he'll just call the next name on his list.
Saw the Dr. Feelgood tour in 1985 and also got to see the stage show broke down after the gig.
There was only 2 working SVT on the stage when I saw them,the other cabs werent even loaded.1 guy was unstacking the 8x10 cabs and moving them like cardboard boxes.
There was only 2 working SVT on the stage when I saw them,the other cabs werent even loaded.1 guy was unstacking the 8x10 cabs and moving them like cardboard boxes.
Didn't Ampeg actually make and supply dummy cabs at one stage? I'm sure it was mentioned somehere here and they had a different letter after the 'e' in 810e
Nope...well the cabs they sent out with the Stones were 810's and 215's, but once the marketing started, they advertised it as two 810's with one head. And for a bogus reason IMHO...they claimed those cabs would only do 250w RMS and the head was 300, but those cabs can do way better than 300. I've had my LMII up to its full 500w clean wattage before and I didn't blow the cab. Wouldn't run it that flat out on a gig, but it would easily take a single SVT head's worth of volume.
I asked because the FOH guy never gets credit for success, only blame for failure. I know a guy who worked a nationally televised event a few years back. Several big names had passed on it, because the TV network had put logistical limitations that made a successful show impossible. He was young and looking to make a name for himself, and took it anyway. The show was a complete fiasco, and he's lucky to be working at all today.
I also know (and have hired) guys who walked from suicidal gigs, and in professional circles they're respected for their good judgement. Not so with the guys who didn't have the sense to get out of the way of the speeding bus.
I think 36 SVTs (and the guitar equivalent on the other side) would slow you down, a lot. Try shoehorning vocals into the wedges with a backline louder than a 747. I did racks & stacks for Motorhead once, and their backline was less than 1/10 what we're talking about with Crue, and the PA (a decent one that exceeded the rider) was essentially along for the ride. I asked the monitor guy how he got vocals through all that, and he smiled and said "I don't".
Actually, it is your job to tell the "artist" when they're sabotaging their own sound. You never told an idiot guitarist to turn down? The guys writing your check have the right to overrule you of course, but your job is to make it sound good, and that means working with the talent. When I'm not given the tools to do my job though, I find another job.
And come on, nobody needs 36 SVTs, even back in the '80s.
Indeed, and I'll take a gig with a band that aren't drug-addled morons insisting on a wall of bass amps loud enough to kill small animals a half mile away.
Really though this is all conjecture since none of us worked that tour, but if the sound was anywhere near acceptable like your girlfriend said, I really can't see how they had the A-bomb of backlines going. I don't doubt that they had 36 cabinets on stage, but I sincerely doubt that more than a couple of them were live (or even loaded).
