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3Leaf Audio Club - Episode 2

The print looks intaglio. Really well done. Did you go lacquer overtop or polymer?
It looks like that, but it may be the filter on the camera. It was a sample piece I had, just sitting around. This may be a little better.
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This angle looks a little more flat. Its very high resolution co2 laser engraved. I used about 5 goes at it with some paper to line up everything. You'd think, being Spencer, everything would be equal tolerances, but it took a little adjusting. A little time on the PC drawing it up. Same way I'm sure he did the mini octaves a while back.
 
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I've been comparing this thing to my Chromatron. It basically has the same controls. At first I thought I had a dead string, until I switched basses. The Wonderlove seems more focused, narrower band, but more organic and less technical than the Chromatron. The resonance seems more effective on the Wonderlove as well. I do like the larger knobs and big flat switches, definitely easier to use. I'm very surprised more people seeking a Chromatron haven't gotten this one.

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I had both for awhile (as well as the GR2) & to me the Wonderlove v2 was more bubbly & pronounced than the Chromatron, had a more colorful tone & was much easier to dial in but Ive always found the Chromatron to be much more natural sounding which I prefer.

The Chromatron retains the natural tone of my bass which I feel gives it a wider range of utility. It can produce a very subtle envelope effect but is capable of more emphasis but it's definitely not as juicy as the Wonderlove v2

Ive had a kind of love/hate relationship with the Chromatron for several years as getting the exact sound I wanted was difficult but I recently changed compression pedals & its made all the difference.
 
So…the print is actually burnt in?
Yes, I can video it later but Google co2 laser engraving online, it's very popular these days. I have several types of lasers, ranging from 75-150 watt. Fiber and YaG for metal etching as well. It's basically computer controlled laser, focused to a very fine point while a gantry moves around, burning, the media
 
I had both for awhile (as well as the GR2) & to me the Wonderlove v2 was more bubbly & pronounced than the Chromatron, had a more colorful tone & was much easier to dial in but Ive always found the Chromatron to be much more natural sounding which I prefer.

The Chromatron retains the natural tone of my bass which I feel gives it a wider range of utility. It can produce a very subtle envelope effect but is capable of more emphasis but it's definitely not as juicy as the Wonderlove v2

Ive had a kind of love/hate relationship with the Chromatron for several years as getting the exact sound I wanted was difficult but I recently changed compression pedals & its made all the difference.
I'm assuming you mean the compression being if front of the chromatron? It's been a while since I had my pwnzor on board. I have a cali always on the very back, some of the choices I'm making I probably need to do the same (try one in front).

I feel the exact same about the chroma and V2, well I find the chromatron easy to dial in, but I think that's because there's no hz cut-off adjustment, like say the XD, Barbanera. Some reason I have difficulty setting up envelopes with those. But I do find the chroma very well rounded, doesn't really lean in either direction. Wonderlove I feel leans a little on the low side, and yes, more bubbly. I like them both lol. Chromatron had also been my favorite when playing clean bass, but along came the Barbanera...

I probably need to try a meatball still, I see the FT and JohnK, but im finding the original gear doesn't waste my time. I've been trying a original sub blaster out and can't put it down.. even with 4 other octaves on board
 
I'm assuming you mean the compression being if front of the chromatron? It's been a while since I had my pwnzor on board. I have a cali always on the very back, some of the choices I'm making I probably need to do the same (try one in front).

I feel the exact same about the chroma and V2, well I find the chromatron easy to dial in, but I think that's because there's no hz cut-off adjustment, like say the XD, Barbanera. Some reason I have difficulty setting up envelopes with those. But I do find the chroma very well rounded, doesn't really lean in either direction. Wonderlove I feel leans a little on the low side, and yes, more bubbly. I like them both lol. Chromatron had also been my favorite when playing clean bass, but along came the Barbanera...

I probably need to try a meatball still, I see the FT and JohnK, but im finding the original gear doesn't waste my time. I've been trying a original sub blaster out and can't put it down.. even with 4 other octaves on board

Yes, I always have a compressor at the front of my chain. For the longest time its been the Miura M2 but recently I got an Effectrode PC-2A & its greatly improved my experience with the Chromatron, I can finally get it to behave the way I want it to.

My only problem with the Barbanera is that the gain affects everything else in the chain & while it may be a minor difference I still find myself readjusting the settings on other pedals which can be annoying & for that reason I prefer using the Chromatron in a chain, it plays well with other pedals moreso than any other envelope filter Ive tried & I think in large part due to it being very transparent & true to the tone its being fed.
 
Yes, I always have a compressor at the front of my chain. For the longest time its been the Miura M2 but recently I got an Effectrode PC-2A & its greatly improved my experience with the Chromatron, I can finally get it to behave the way I want it to.

My only problem with the Barbanera is that the gain affects everything else in the chain & while it may be a minor difference I still find myself readjusting the settings on other pedals which can be annoying & for that reason I prefer using the Chromatron in a chain, it plays well with other pedals moreso than any other envelope filter Ive tried & I think in large part due to it being very transparent & true to the tone its being fed.

i love the chromatron versatility and ease of use. i am very interested with the barbanera though . i heard so much goodness about them i yet have to try one out but its hard to find one in the used market.. if anybody has leads id be happy to land one.
 
Yes, I always have a compressor at the front of my chain. For the longest time its been the Miura M2 but recently I got an Effectrode PC-2A & its greatly improved my experience with the Chromatron, I can finally get it to behave the way I want it to.

My only problem with the Barbanera is that the gain affects everything else in the chain & while it may be a minor difference I still find myself readjusting the settings on other pedals which can be annoying & for that reason I prefer using the Chromatron in a chain, it plays well with other pedals moreso than any other envelope filter Ive tried & I think in large part due to it being very transparent & true to the tone its being fed.
Yeah, that volume on the Barb is strange, but it's on the 101 so.. I have the 4 envelopes in one loop, and aside from the dream crusher I have behind those (which is brilliant mixed with envelopes) the Barb is last. So it doesn't affect the other input sensitive pedals. All of that's In a loop, which has a buffer to make up any differences. I never adjust that volume, so it's never a issue. I just consider the entire circuit as one, and front>back is unity. That boost before the envelope is what I like honestly. Like I mention above, like the 3leaf envelopes, there's no hz cut-off knob, but the barb there is one. On the XD I always have issues dialing it a nice full sweep, the Barb I don't - mainly because that extra volume. It is a strange thing though, I'd like to look up the mf101 manual and see why they use that.

Have you tried the expression on the Barb, but with CV? Wondering if it's different than a passive exp signal
 
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Yeah, that volume on the Barb is strange, but it's on the 101 so.. I have the 4 envelopes in one loop, and aside from the dream crusher I have behind those (which is brilliant mixed with envelopes) the Barb is last. So it doesn't affect the other input sensitive pedals. All of that's In a loop, which has a buffer to make up any differences. I never adjust that volume,

Ive not used the Barbanera in a loop, does that remedy the gain issue? I had a MF-101 for a time so I knew what to expect with the gain of the Barbanera but I like that its true bypass & can run off standard power supply.

If other filters are in the loop the Barbanera's gain still affects their sensitivity & triggering, right?

Ive only used a Mission Engineering EP-25 Pro Aero expression pedal to manually control the Barbanera's sweep but from what I understand expression pedals are a form of CV.
 
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Ive not used the Barbanera in a loop, does that remedy the gain issue? I had a MF-101 for a time so I knew what to expect with the gain of the Barbanera but I like that its true bypass & can run off standard power supply.

If other filters are in the loop the Barbanera's gain still affects their sensitivity & triggering, right?

Ive only used a Mission Engineering EP-25 Pro Aero expression pedal to manually control the Barbanera's sweep but from what I understand expression pedals are a form of CV.
From what I can tell your pedal is passive expression, like the chromatron. To be CV you would need something like the expressionator which does both, like the Reflex I use, if you wanted to stay with Misson. Passive is basically a volume pot on the pedal/rocker, yours is 25kohm. CV control sends 0-5volts (CV=Control Voltage). One uses resistance and one uses ac voltage, most pedals will be damaged if you use CV on a passive setup, but the Barb is one that can use both. I just haven't tried the CV option yet, wondering how the control is different than passive.

Yes, all my envelopes are in a loop, but the Barb is last so the volume doesn't affect anything else. On the return, my switcher makes up gain, or pads, so the loop retains unity.
 
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