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4 ohm 4x10 cab with vertically aligned drivers. Single cab.

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Schpector

Jan 31, 2012
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Macon, GA
#1
Did some searching on the internet and couldn't find one.

Obviously, stacking two 2x10s vertically is popular and some would consider this more convenient than a single cab.

I, personally, would prefer a single 4 ohm 4x10 with all drivers directly atop one another (not staggered) in a vertical cab.

But, thus, the question:

Have any companies made one that I just missed?

Any of you DIY guys embarked on something like this? (If so, pics please!:bassist:)

Is this a good idea from an engineering/scientific standpoint?
 
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#2
I've always been surprised not to see more vertical 410's. It "has been done", but is pretty darn uncommon. I suspect the reason is mostly that the "popular" cab shapes were invented and accepted back during a time when amp heads were all like 24" wide---so they would fall off a vertical 410.
 
#4
A big part of cab design has to do with form factor. While a traditional 410 may not be the best layout for a number of reasons, it does excel at getting a lot of volume out of a compact shape that rack space amps can sit on and can be put in the backseat of most cars. There's something to be said for that.
 
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One of the biggest limitations for DIY'ing it is a severe lack of quality 10" drivers in the 4, or 16 ohm variety. There are some really good ones out there, but they're all in 8 ohms, leaving you with the option of an 8 ohm, or 2 ohm cab. You really aren't gaining mich of anything by going from 8 to 4 ohms, but perception being what it is, and the realistic factor of having some headroom on top of your volume in all these 4ohm micro amps nowdays, it's hard to convince people. There are some 10's out there in 4 or 16ohm models. Unfortunately, most are ultra cheap, to the point you'd feel dirty selling them to people, or ultra expensive, makong it hard to sell many at all. You're still farther ahead getting a pair of 8ohm 210's from a manufacturer you like. They can have them made like that ordering 200, 500, 1000 at a time. Wholesale cost being generally half of retail, and getting custom jobs with big orders makes it feasible for them.
 
#7
Plenty of options for those of us who see the benefits of such things, yes. For selling them by the ton to the mass public? Don't see it happening yet, although it'd be nice. The column speakers of the '70's were fine designs, the driver advancements just hadn't caught up yet. People opted for cubes, and still do. I think the vertical column idea is great. Just don't see them becoming the next "cool thing", and thus, not selling enough. The general design is far superior to most of the stuff being peddled as "boutique" now, but unfortunately, people still listen with their eyes.
 
#11
I'd swear I saw Trey Gunn playing through a vertical 4x10" with King Crimson back in 2000 or 2001. I think it was either a Raven Labs or an EA cabinet. But maybe I'm mistaken and it was a 3x10"?


edit: I have been corrected: It was indeed an EA 3x10"
 
#12
Schpector said:
I, personally, would prefer a single 4 ohm 4x10 with all drivers directly atop one another (not staggered) in a vertical cab.
Click to expand...

Why single? If this feature is truly essential in your quest, why don't you snag two decent quality 2 X 10's and bolt them together? The audio engineering has already been done; all you need to add is about $3 worth of hardware. Here's what it will look like when you're done:

AcmeB2Front.jpg


You'll have to remove drivers from each enclosure but that should be no great hardship. The resulting dual cab configuration will be taller than a dedicated single box thanks to the "double bulkhead" separating the compartments.

Riis
 
#15
I've been thinking about this for a bit too. I did find some good 16 and 4 ohm neos from Faital and B&C on US Speaker for $200+. But at that price point, you can get fantastic FR 12's or 15's with gobs more Vd and efficiency and equivalent range. So that a ~$500 2x15 build is "as good as" the ~$1000 4x10. Paying double for half an octave of better dispersion would be hard to justify for me.

But, I'm with you. There's a coolness factor with the "better half" of a fridge that's hard to ignore. It's like if Willy Wonka had an SVT.

OTOH, it's not far off what 2 new 2x10's cost...
 
#20
Looks really nice. I'd be afraid to set my amp on the top though. Is it shaky or would it do OK on a hard floor? JimmyM says his sounds awesome too. The GC in Nashville had the 100 watt speakers but didn't have any of the 200 watt ones so I haven't been able to try them out yet. Thanks for the photo.
 

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