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4 to 5...5 to 6...Does It Ever End?

ps. your gould looks just like my Q6
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It's not a big deal to me. 5 or 6 if you want or need them. I prefer a 4 string as a main bass, mainly because I don't have much use for a low B. I prefer the clanky sound of drop D if I need to play metal and don't really like the sound of the low B below the E-flat. 4 strings are also better for slapping for me. The low B helps more if you play in the upper register but I prefer a high C because I prefer the sounds of notes fretted lower in the fretboard. For fretless I do prefer extended range (24 frets and a high C) because I don't feel there are any compromises but it's a different story for me fretted.
When I began playing bass, it was an el-cheapo Jay Turser 4 string P-clone that I picked up for $100. The pickguard was so warped that it touched the underside of the orange, fuzzy strings, not so gently, but the neck was dead straight. I gave it love. I cut the pickguard down so it just covered the essentials, cleaned up the electronic, gave it the first setup that it never received and gigged it for a decade without issue. I started pining for a 5 and decided to go with something special. I moved to the desert and the Turser was highly responsive to the radical changes in humidity and temperature which can occur daily. I felt bad for the truss rod, because it was being adjustment more and more frequently to compensate. I decided that a graphite neck bass would take a lot of variables out the equation and after finding out that Modulus has tanked, did my research and found out that Geoff Gould was still making basses. I tracked down a GGi-5 and bought it from the Bass Place online. I was not disappointed.

The Turser ended up going from presumed backup that never got played, to parts that never got used to yard art. The 5 became my main bass and it felt like home. 4's were no longer appealing to me. I played that 5 for close to a decade and loved every minute of it. Then the bug hit: I wanted to try fretless and I wanted to try that fretless as a 6. I had Geoff build a GGi-6 fretless for me and again was not disappointed. I love it. When I play, it feels like home, but part of me also enjoys playing fretted instruments. So...the idea of a fretted GGi-6 to compliment my fretless 6 emerged.

All of a sudden, I am starting to look at the 5 in the same way I looked at the 4, excepting that the GGi-5 is a desirable commodity and the Turser 4 was musical firewood. I am beginning to feel that the Rainbow Trout GGi-5 may have to go to make room for a new bass with another string. The Trout and I have had good times together. It has seen a truss rod upgrade. I have had a hand surgery. We are both improved, but I think I am hearing the call of something new. I am not usually one to have a stable of redundant things. To have a bass sit un-played seems criminal, especially when it is something so very sweet, but I am hearing the call of a fretted 6 companion to the fretless and I don't think there is any going back.

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Lets give this some context. Do string players want more strings? horn players want more valves? The cool thing in drums now is one up two down plus BD...bare minimum...small tight and tasty.
Guitars want 8 instead of 6? I think the answer is a resounding no. And lets not forget, out in the audience bass is just a mushy drone....
My take. Four string P bass and practise like my life depends on it. I sound pretty darn good....The audiences certainly seem to think so.
 
Lets give this some context. Do string players want more strings? horn players want more valves? The cool thing in drums now is one up two down plus BD...bare minimum...small tight and tasty.
Guitars want 8 instead of 6? I think the answer is a resounding no. And lets not forget, out in the audience bass is just a mushy drone....
My take. Four string P bass and practise like my life depends on it. I sound pretty darn good....The audiences certainly seem to think so.
It just depends on the player and context. Most jazz saxophonists play more than one horn. Did Coltrane and Wayne Shorter want more range and different timbres? Yes, that's why they picked up soprano as well. Other string instruments were designed for the classical context where you'd generally be encroaching on another instrument's space by extending an instrument's range. But with electric and contemporary music outside of an orchestral context this is less of a concern. Guitarists generally prefer 6 because of chordal fingering, but plenty use extended range because it suits what they're trying to achieve. There's no need to be dogmatic about it either way, it's just personal preference. For me? I'm with you, I generally prefer four but not for the reasons you stated. And bass is only mushy drone live if you play a P bass ;) (only teasing of course).
 
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Tempting, but I think 6 is the magic number for me and it would have to be a G. Gould. The neck is like no other. I have a baritone guitar for higher notes if it becomes a deadly press for things marginally bass-like...of course, I say that never having played a 7 string...
That's how it starts I recently got my first 7 and now I'm hooked
 
I started on 4, quickly went on to 5, was happy for about 15 years, then began wondering about 6.
I had not one but two very nice 5 strings that I liked a lot. I thought about getting a cheap 6 to try out the concept, but realized that I would have to get a nice 6 string, one that can transport the feeling of playing a good bass as well as having 6 strings. With a custom made 5 string bass and a cheap clunker with 6 strings, I could see myself gravitate towards the better bass, regardless of string count.
I ran across an Ibanez BTB single cut 6 string that I happened to like a lot. It was significantly cheaper than my other basses, but it quickly became my main player. So when I made my attempt at buying the "pry it from my cold, dead fingers" bass, I chose six strings.
This only has been a couple of years ago, but I am very confident that I've reached the end of the line in terms of string count. I have zero interest in anything extending further than 6 strings. I have no use for anything below the low B or above the high C - and with the string spacing I prefer, I can play the entire neck, but I'm at the maximum of what my fingers can reach with comfort.

There is a reason that the traditional string count is 4, there are a ton of 5 string models, a lot fewer 6 string models (did Fender make any beyond the Steve Bailey sig model?), and then there's a steep drop, and only the adventurous companies offer a single model with even more strings.
 
Lets give this some context. Do string players want more strings? horn players want more valves? The cool thing in drums now is one up two down plus BD...bare minimum...small tight and tasty.
Guitars want 8 instead of 6? I think the answer is a resounding no. And lets not forget, out in the audience bass is just a mushy drone....
My take. Four string P bass and practise like my life depends on it. I sound pretty darn good....The audiences certainly seem to think so.

uhh..you have 5 string cellos en violins, 10 string guitars etc. Ever looked at Terry Bozzio's kit? A four string P is so clichee, let me guess sunburst with torts and flats? :D:D
 
Lets give this some context. Do string players want more strings? horn players want more valves? The cool thing in drums now is one up two down plus BD...bare minimum...small tight and tasty.
Guitars want 8 instead of 6? I think the answer is a resounding no. And lets not forget, out in the audience bass is just a mushy drone....
My take. Four string P bass and practise like my life depends on it. I sound pretty darn good....The audiences certainly seem to think so.
I also play a bari sax because my tenor didn't go low enough and an alto when it wasn't high enough. My drum kit is 3 up and 3 down. I like range and options.
 
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When I began playing bass, it was an el-cheapo Jay Turser 4 string P-clone that I picked up for $100. The pickguard was so warped that it touched the underside of the orange, fuzzy strings, not so gently, but the neck was dead straight. I gave it love. I cut the pickguard down so it just covered the essentials, cleaned up the electronic, gave it the first setup that it never received and gigged it for a decade without issue. I started pining for a 5 and decided to go with something special. I moved to the desert and the Turser was highly responsive to the radical changes in humidity and temperature which can occur daily. I felt bad for the truss rod, because it was being adjustment more and more frequently to compensate. I decided that a graphite neck bass would take a lot of variables out the equation and after finding out that Modulus has tanked, did my research and found out that Geoff Gould was still making basses. I tracked down a GGi-5 and bought it from the Bass Place online. I was not disappointed.

The Turser ended up going from presumed backup that never got played, to parts that never got used to yard art. The 5 became my main bass and it felt like home. 4's were no longer appealing to me. I played that 5 for close to a decade and loved every minute of it. Then the bug hit: I wanted to try fretless and I wanted to try that fretless as a 6. I had Geoff build a GGi-6 fretless for me and again was not disappointed. I love it. When I play, it feels like home, but part of me also enjoys playing fretted instruments. So...the idea of a fretted GGi-6 to compliment my fretless 6 emerged.

All of a sudden, I am starting to look at the 5 in the same way I looked at the 4, excepting that the GGi-5 is a desirable commodity and the Turser 4 was musical firewood. I am beginning to feel that the Rainbow Trout GGi-5 may have to go to make room for a new bass with another string. The Trout and I have had good times together. It has seen a truss rod upgrade. I have had a hand surgery. We are both improved, but I think I am hearing the call of something new. I am not usually one to have a stable of redundant things. To have a bass sit un-played seems criminal, especially when it is something so very sweet, but I am hearing the call of a fretted 6 companion to the fretless and I don't think there is any going back.

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Go for it but keep the 5. You might itch for it again and it’s paid for.

I went down the similar journey with a Ken Smith BSR6, only the other way. Started out fretless 6 as I had always played fretless most of my life and wanted a fretted 6. I bought a Clemens 6 but found the fingerboards were to different each time I picked them up. So I found a companion BSR6 fretted. I loved the Clemens and was sad to see it go as he makes a really high quality bass but I love having 2 of the exact same basses to switch back and forth when needed.

Now I play almost exclusively upright. I keep both of the 6’s, a Carvin 5 and a Schecter studio 4, (a great 4 string bass) as there are calls for each of them though I don’t seek them out. Sometimes I just pick them up and put a smile on my face.

Also read all the threads of people wishing they’d never sold there old bass. Tastes and bodies change over the years.
 
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I'm a 5er guy through and through. Made the transition a quarter of a century ago and never looked back.
That being said, I've owned three 6 string basses. The first was my Wishbass fretless which was surprisingly playable.
One day I fell in love with a 6 string fretted Warwick. Turned out to be lust. Too wide. Returned it by the end of the weekend. Was devastatingly heavy and wide. Not my kinda girl.
Then a few years later I bought a TL 6 off of Reverb for short money. Too wide. Too heavy. My slapping popping routine ended up with Tourettes. Sold her for what I paid.

I'd be open to the right fretless 6 but she never quite arrives. I'm ok with that. Like Scott from Scotts Bass lessons says, a 6 makes you want to noodle and not actually play.
 
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When I began playing bass, it was an el-cheapo Jay Turser 4 string P-clone that I picked up for $100. The pickguard was so warped that it touched the underside of the orange, fuzzy strings, not so gently, but the neck was dead straight. I gave it love. I cut the pickguard down so it just covered the essentials, cleaned up the electronic, gave it the first setup that it never received and gigged it for a decade without issue. I started pining for a 5 and decided to go with something special. I moved to the desert and the Turser was highly responsive to the radical changes in humidity and temperature which can occur daily. I felt bad for the truss rod, because it was being adjustment more and more frequently to compensate. I decided that a graphite neck bass would take a lot of variables out the equation and after finding out that Modulus has tanked, did my research and found out that Geoff Gould was still making basses. I tracked down a GGi-5 and bought it from the Bass Place online. I was not disappointed.

The Turser ended up going from presumed backup that never got played, to parts that never got used to yard art. The 5 became my main bass and it felt like home. 4's were no longer appealing to me. I played that 5 for close to a decade and loved every minute of it. Then the bug hit: I wanted to try fretless and I wanted to try that fretless as a 6. I had Geoff build a GGi-6 fretless for me and again was not disappointed. I love it. When I play, it feels like home, but part of me also enjoys playing fretted instruments. So...the idea of a fretted GGi-6 to compliment my fretless 6 emerged.

All of a sudden, I am starting to look at the 5 in the same way I looked at the 4, excepting that the GGi-5 is a desirable commodity and the Turser 4 was musical firewood. I am beginning to feel that the Rainbow Trout GGi-5 may have to go to make room for a new bass with another string. The Trout and I have had good times together. It has seen a truss rod upgrade. I have had a hand surgery. We are both improved, but I think I am hearing the call of something new. I am not usually one to have a stable of redundant things. To have a bass sit un-played seems criminal, especially when it is something so very sweet, but I am hearing the call of a fretted 6 companion to the fretless and I don't think there is any going back.

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I wish you luck in your journey. Sometimes, more strings and range under your hands is exactly what you need. For the record, I stopped at 8.
 
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uhh..you have 5 string cellos en violins, 10 string guitars etc. Ever looked at Terry Bozzio's kit? A four string P is so clichee, let me guess sunburst with torts and flats? :D:D

Ok granted there are some orchestras playing five strings but they are not the norm. Anyway forget all that . You dissing P basses? Go away and come back when uve had a think and done some research. Oh, and get off my lawn too!...... hahaha
 
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