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4x10 and 1x15 combination solution!

MultiScaleMale

MultiScaleMale

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#1
Not sure why I never thought of this before when we talk about 410 and 115 cabs being a poor match.

Put the 115 on top and 410 on the bottom. That way the 410 will get more of the lows that need more power to reproduce. It might look a little strange since we're used to seeing the other way around, but some dark fabric under the grilles will hide which cab is on top and vice versa. Problem solved! Can't wait to try it out tonight!
 
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MultiScaleMale said:
Not sure why I never thought of this before when we talk about 410 and 115 cabs being a poor match.

Put the 115 on top and 410 on the bottom. That way the 410 will get more of the lows that need more power to reproduce. It might look a little strange since we're used to seeing the other way around, but some dark fabric under the grilles will hide which cab is on top and vice versa. Problem solved! Can't wait to try it out tonight!
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And you'll be able to hear sooner when the 1x15 begins to fart out.

I don't think it will make a difference FOH.

Maybe @agedhorse will stop by and edumacate us.:thumbsup:
 
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This doesnt do much about any of the "issues" potentially caused by combining the two. It helps to put the 115 up closer to your head thus making it easier to hear any overpowering issues. It doesnt address power handling mismatching, comb filtering or dispersion. It wont affect any potential phase issues.

However just a note.... Most folks here agree that if it sounds how you like it and it meets your needs then who cares if it is "right" or not... The anti-115/410 thing here on TB is really just a guideline when building a rig. There are few and far between instances where tbis combination is a good match on paper. That's it... If it sounds good it is good.
 
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There ain't NO 'solution.' If the cabs were designed right they'd be matched properly (impedance, sensitivity and SPL).

Cone area, 4 10's are greater than an 18! Of course the VC is also a factor.
 
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basscooker said:
This doesnt do much about any of the "issues" potentially caused by combining the two. It helps to put the 115 up closer to your head thus making it easier to hear any overpowering issues. It doesnt address power handling mismatching, comb filtering or dispersion. It wont affect any potential phase issues.

However just a note.... Most folks here agree that if it sounds how you like it and it meets your needs then who cares if it is "right" or not... The anti-115/410 thing here on TB is really just a guideline when building a rig. There are few and far between instances where tbis combination is a good match on paper. That's it... If it sounds good it is good.
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It's because everyone is putting the 410 on top. It's usually a heavier cab, so it makes even more sense to put it on the bottom so you don't have to lift it.
 
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MultiScaleMale said:
Not sure why I never thought of this before when we talk about 410 and 115 cabs being a poor match.

Put the 115 on top and 410 on the bottom. That way the 410 will get more of the lows that need more power to reproduce. It might look a little strange since we're used to seeing the other way around, but some dark fabric under the grilles will hide which cab is on top and vice versa. Problem solved! Can't wait to try it out tonight!
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I never got the point of this 115 + 410 combo-ing. Like, why not use 215 or 810? An average 115 almost has the same footprint of a 410 anyways.

The only thing left to decide should be whether you want your dispersity to be focused (810) or wide (215). Personally, I have found in most cases that 810s feel more responsive but a 215 sounds wider and a bit more lazy but it is just my personal experience while testing certain equipment out. We all know this is not always the case although I would be willing to bet that in average the upper statement mostly holds true.

Mixing different size drivers just does all kinds of weird stuff and unless engineered to be paired so, you will just phase yourself to oblivion most likely.

I know that OP is joking but I'm in the mood for typing today lol.
 
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