Tonal gravity is real. The heavier the riffage the more lows you produce, and they will be going to the lowest speaker. It's simple science really.
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And then you woke up.Tonal gravity is real. The heavier the riffage the more lows you produce, and they will be going to the lowest speaker. It's simple science really.
But where should you place it? On top of the 410, or under the 410, or behind the 410 back-to-back?If you point the 15"cab towards the back wall, and unplug it, you will get the best sound out of the 410.
I prefer to stack my 4x15" on top of my 1x10"
I'm not sure where you got the idea that putting a 410 on the bottom will give it more low-end than stacking it on top of the 115. Might get some more just from stage coupling if it's on the bottom with no casters, and you will hear the 115 better because it will be closer to your ears. But the amp isn't going to send any more lows to it regardless of whether it's on top or bottom or next to each other for that matter.Not sure why I never thought of this before when we talk about 410 and 115 cabs being a poor match.
Put the 115 on top and 410 on the bottom. That way the 410 will get more of the lows that need more power to reproduce. It might look a little strange since we're used to seeing the other way around, but some dark fabric under the grilles will hide which cab is on top and vice versa. Problem solved! Can't wait to try it out tonight!
Uuuuuuhhhhhhh....NO!When cabs are stacked does the top cab always get the highs?
I'm not sure where you got the idea that putting a 410 on the bottom will give it more low-end than stacking it on top of the 115. Might get some more just from stage coupling if it's on the bottom with no casters, and you will hear the 115 better because it will be closer to your ears. But the amp isn't going to send any more lows to it regardless of whether it's on top or bottom or next to each other for that matter.
I used to run my 410 on top of my 115. Then I just bought a far better 410 (DNS-410) and the 115 has been in the closet ever since. My DNS-410 is far better sounding and far louder (130db max SPL) than any stack or fridge I've used or heard. My old stack - GK BPX115 + acoustic B410 sounded good driven with my WT500/800 as long as I turned the balance knob about 2 clicks towards the 410 side of this dual power-block amp.
Now I just run the amp bridged at 800 watts rms into my 8 ohm DNS410 cab. Doesn't take as much power to run it and it is much louder and clearer with a much tighter low-end than my stack ever was. So in some cases it's called "get a top quality 410 that doesn't need a 115 to make you sound good."
Not sure why I never thought of this before when we talk about 410 and 115 cabs being a poor match.
Put the 115 on top and 410 on the bottom. That way the 410 will get more of the lows that need more power to reproduce. It might look a little strange since we're used to seeing the other way around, but some dark fabric under the grilles will hide which cab is on top and vice versa. Problem solved! Can't wait to try it out tonight!
Ha! I think RichSnyder is having some fun with us.It's because everyone is putting the 410 on top. It's usually a heavier cab, so it makes even more sense to put it on the bottom so you don't have to lift it.
LOL...the GK BPX115 gave me fits forever. It's their worst cab - super muddy and boomy. I specifically sent more power from my dual power-block amp to the 410 than to the 115 to help tame that mud. I had the 410 plugged into one channel and the 115 into the other, and used the balance knob on my amp to tame the mud from the GK. Prior to that I had to cut the bass EQ down to about 10 o'clock to get it to sound decent when running from a single power-block amp. OF course that hamstrung the lows on the 410, but if I didn't do that the mud from the 115 would just overwhelm you.Definitely try the 115 on top. You'll be glad.
LOL...the GK BPX115 gave me fits forever. It's their worst cab - super muddy and boomy. I specifically sent more power from my dual power-block amp to the 410 than to the 115 to help tame that mud. I had the 410 plugged into one channel and the 115 into the other, and used the balance knob on my amp to tame the mud from the GK. Prior to that I had to cut the bass EQ down to about 10 o'clock to get it to sound decent when running from a single power-block amp. OF course that hamstrung the lows on the 410, but if I didn't do that the mud from the 115 would just overwhelm you.
I bought that cab based on my experience back in the 90's with some GK gear that sounded great. This was part of their Brat Pack in 2006 and was their least expensive series. Wish I had never seen it because anything else would have been better than this. although I was real excited about it at the time, that purchase was a real mistake.
So, there is no chance that I will dig that cab out of the closet and put it on top of my DNS-410. I haven't used that cab since 2015 and not planning on ever using it again. My DNS-410 needs nothing else to play anywhere indoors, outdoors, or festivals - an absolutely amazing cab. I have other amps and cabs for playing small venues or medium venues with weird stages, but for medium and large venues my DNS-410 is more than I need.
No, not at all. And it may sound good to you that way, so do it.You can't blame me for trying. Heh.
Tonal gravity is real. The heavier the riffage the more lows you produce, and they will be going to the lowest speaker. It's simple science really.