4x10 and 1x15 combination solution!

[JeezyMcNuggles]

So (consequently) do you really mean that 215 cabs are gnereally limited by the handling of ONE of its loaded drivers?

Why would that make sense?

 

[JeezyMcNuggles]

Why would that make sense?

But actually, yes. If the two are different speakers. Say you had a subway, and a bugera. Than you're limited by the bugera.

 

[MultiScaleMale]

Why would that make sense?

A 215 cab is limited to 2x the capacity of a single speaker. A 410 cab is limited to 4x the handling of a single speaker. I think people are confusing 215 with two 115 cabs and your limit in that case is 2x the minimum handling of either cab. So, a 200W cab and a 800W cab, you should still only push a max of 400W, assuming that both cabs are 8 ohm. If you tried 1600W, the 200W will let out the smoke.

 

[ThisBass]

Why would that make sense?

If you have a 410 on top of a 115 then you are limited by the 115 driver (respectively cab) at the bottom, right?
If you have two identical 115 cabs and have these cabs vertical stacked then AGAIN the bottom 115 cab limits the handling.

And if you have got a 215 cab then it will be just the same situation that the bottom 15" driver will limit the handling.

Actually it makes (almost always) really no difference for the total power handling if there was a 410 on top of a 115 or just an identical 115.

But it makes me very wonder that nearly nobody feels any need to make cautions like the following.

e.g.
1000 Watt amplifier that powers a 215 cabinet 4 Ohm of 600 Watt RMS power handling.
If the amplifier is pushed to full power then the bottom driver (and the driver at top as well) will receive more of power the driver can handle over time.


For the record, its just nothing but an.

e.g.=for example

 

[ThisBass]

Imagination is more important than knowledge. [Albert Einstein]

something of the meaning of his words might be lost due to translation.
Actually he tried to tell that there was no knowledge (science) without imagination.

 

[Rip Van Dan]

Speaking of stacking, if you're a really slow player then your notes will lack velocity and will fall to the floor before reaching the audience's ears. In this case stacking is a must. Placing your cab(s) on top of a board straddling two 6 foot ladders will get you heard.

 

[JeezyMcNuggles]

If you have a 410 on top of a 115 then you are limited by the 115 driver (respectively cab) at the bottom, right?
If you have two identical 115 cabs and have these cabs vertical stacked then AGAIN the bottom 115 cab limits the handling.

And if you have got a 215 cab then it will be just the same situation that the bottom 15" driver will limit the handling.

Actually it makes (almost always) really no difference for the total power handling if there was a 410 on top of a 115 or just an identical 115.

But it makes me very wonder that nearly nobody feels any need to make cautions like the following.

e.g.
1000 Watt amplifier that powers a 215 cabinet 4 Ohm of 600 Watt RMS power handling.
If the amplifier is pushed to full power then the bottom driver (and the driver at top as well) will receive more of power the driver can handle over time.


For the record, its just nothing but an.

It makes no difference, whatsoever, which cab is on top or bottom. Its 1 speaker vs 4 speakers. Getting the same power. 4 speakers cranking the same force that 1 speaker is trying to keep up with. That's it dude. You're only going to hear the 410. Its louder. Got more bass, more mids, more highs. It's completely pointless trying to pair something with less speaker surface than itself with the same power.

 

[agedhorse]

You really do make no sense. At all bro. Apparently, what I said blew right over the top of that head of yours. It makes no difference, whatsoever, which cab is on top or bottom. Its 1 speaker vs 4 speakers. Getting the same power. 4 speakers cranking the same force that 1 speaker is trying to keep up with. That's it dude. You're only going to hear the 410. Its louder. Got more bass, more mids, more highs. It's completely pointless trying to pair something with less speaker surface than itself with the same power.

English is not his first language, I assure you he grasps the technical details just fine.

What you are missing is that there are a number of instances where a "super-cab" 115 mates up quite nicely to some 410's. There are 115's with mechanical power handling capabilities in the 400-500 watt RMS range with AVERAGE sensitivities in the 99dB/1W/1M range that pair up rather well with 410's in the 99-100dB/1W/1M range with AVERAGE sensitivities in the 100dB/1W/1M range. These 410's may have a mechanical power handling of 300-500 watts, or even 400-600 watts, but it's plenty close enough to play well together (that's assuming the phase response is acceptable, but that's another discussion entirely).

The problem is that many 410's are 4 ohm which skews the power distribution and is certainly a poor choice on that aspect alone, but many also have power/sensitivity ratings that are not based on the same metrics as others which leads to incorrect conclusions. Optimistic, marketing based ratings can not be directly compared with more rigorous engineering based ratings.

 

[Chickenwheels]

If your 410 is cranked up loud enough that that the 115 under it will suffer, may the gods have mercy on your hearing..!