4x10 and 1x15 combination solution!

[CryingBass]

Personally, I couldn't care less if people wanna mix and match drivers and cabs. I did it all through the 90's. But how are you sending the lows to the 410 and highs to the 15? It's not as simple as stacking them that way.

yeh, but your crowds' were all deaf anyway...

 

[Bodeanly]

yeh, but your crowds' were all deaf anyway...

I never said I turned it up. Just thought it looked cool.

 

[CryingBass]

I never said I turned it up. Just thought it looked cool.

I used Kustom's for that myself in that past. Made for great after-gig sleep-overs too...

 

[stubborne]

Pfffft, rookies. Stack your cabinets diagonally!!! I mean setup might take a bit longer until you get the hang of balancing them (and it's recommended not to move AT ALL once you got them balanced, so kill the drummer immediately).

 

[JeezyMcNuggles]

Not sure why I never thought of this before when we talk about 410 and 115 cabs being a poor match.

Put the 115 on top and 410 on the bottom. That way the 410 will get more of the lows that need more power to reproduce. It might look a little strange since we're used to seeing the other way around, but some dark fabric under the grilles will hide which cab is on top and vice versa. Problem solved! Can't wait to try it out tonight!

Yes, but then you're still limited in volume and handling by the 15. It really doesn't make sense to me why you'd want to add 115 to an already great 410. Maybe a 212 instead?

 

[JRA]

4x10 = 40.
1x15 = 15.

they don't match. what gives?

 

[Ewo]

Too early to be 4/20, so it must be 4/1. Heh.

 

[ThisBass]

This doesnt do much about any of the "issues" potentially caused by combining the two. It helps to put the 115 up closer to your head thus making it easier to hear any overpowering issues.

Mechanical overload of drivers (driver overexcursion beyond Xmax) at some content isn't audible anyway. It makes no difference which one of the two cabs (the bottom one or the cab on top) you don't hear to be overloaded

It doesnt address power handling mismatching, comb filtering or dispersion. It wont affect any potential phase issues.

It depends on the cab design and loaded driver if there is lots of power handling mismatch, sometimes the dfference is less than the cab specs might give reason to expect.

Plenty of comb filtering does already happen with the 410 cabinet as a stand alone cab.

Regarding odd phase issues (myths), here you are
I ain't a phase issue believer

 

[BergerHead]

i d'prefer a 8x10" way over a 15/4X14"" cab, to me the 15er are low-mid killer and this is where the coloratura of the P & L-Bergers is singing best. Years ago i had a Trace Elliot 350 with the 15/10" combo and i never liked it, a 4x14" stand alone is doing a better job imo.

 

[ThisBass]

When cabs are stacked does the top cab always get the highs?

The top cab is higher placed, isn't it?

 

[ThisBass]

4x10 = 40.
1x15 = 15.

they don't match. what gives?

4x5x5=100
7.5x7.5=56.25

20*log(100/56.25)=5dB

btw
40/15=2.67
while to the contrary
100/56.25=1.78

 

[ThisBass]

I want a double blind test. I think you'll change your mind when you hear the lows through the 410.

My crystal ball failed to tell me which kind of 410 cab the OP is talking about.

 

[MultiScaleMale]

My crystal ball failed to tell me which kind of 410 cab the OP is talking about.

Behringer

 

[5StringBlues]

BR549

 

[MultiScaleMale]

BR549

Old enough to understand. Damn.

 

[ThisBass]

Yes, but then you're still limited in volume and handling by the 15.

So (consequently) do you really mean that 215 cabs are gnereally limited by the handling of ONE of its loaded drivers?

 

[Stumbo]

So (consequently) do you really mean that 215 cabs are gnereally limited by the handling of ONE of its loaded drivers?

No. Only in context of 4 speskers vs 1 speaker.

e.g., 1000w amp
4 speakers get 500w=125w per spkr.
1 speaker gets 500w=500 per speaker

When the 1 speaker begins to fart out, you're done.

 

[moogieotter]

What if you have 2 410s AND 2 115s?

Diagonals? Same stacks? What about all those Ohms?

 

[Chickenwheels]

I stack my 410....






...in the back of the guy's pickup truck who gave me cash for it.

 

[And I]

What you want is a Quantum 4150. It's one cab with 4 speakers that are either 10s or 15s depending on how you are playing at the moment.