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5sg's Cliff Bordwell Spring 2022 Build

Cliffs communication isn’t just great because how good he is about keeping you updated, but he’s super patient as you work through your goals with him, answering all the questions and looking for exotic materials. He’s great.

I’m excited to see your finished pics and get your impressions on the finished bass.
 
So, no new photo updates yet from Cliff after that last photo, but he did send me an email a few days ago letting me know that he'd be on vacation for the 4th weekend and he'd have a couple more photos after that (and he said the word "completed" before "pics!"). And how's this for classy customer service: after saying he'd be on vacation and wouldn't be on email, he still let me know that I could text him if I had any questions. I won't, but still... dude totally has my respect.

5sg.

I am pretty sure I’ve had Cliff email me over a few Christmas weekends and holidays. His communication skills are the best out of the bass builders I have dealt with over the years.
I’m excited to see your bass done! Looking forward to some finished pics.

-ScottM

Cliffs communication isn’t just great because how good he is about keeping you updated, but he’s super patient as you work through your goals with him, answering all the questions and looking for exotic materials. He’s great.

I’m excited to see your finished pics and get your impressions on the finished bass.


Cliff's customer support is the best!
 
...but he’s super patient as you work through your goals with him, answering all the questions and looking for exotic materials. He’s great.

Totally this. He answered all my questions and was friendly the whole way, including joking around with me a few times as well. He even thought ahead to questions I didn't know I had... I asked him about the custom pickup covers and what would happen if I decided I didn't like the Big Rigs (which I highly doubt, I've liked all the Nordstrand pickups I've ever had the opportunity to try), and he let me know how he built them and that it would be easy to change.

I could easily see myself talking to him again in the future about another bass if funds for another custom become available.

5sg.
 
Ha! Indeed it is! :bassist:

Bass got here about an hour ago but.... it's been a typical Friday at the day job, a couple projects at work became "emergencies" (sidenote: I couldn't even make it through this post without a video call and a couple Teams chat interruptions!) and I've only just taken it out of the box. It's sitting in the corner of the office in the gig bag teasing me. lol

Stay tuned!

5sg.
 
All right Bordites, here are some photos!

This is Soleil, named after the French word for "sun," because that Douglas Fir top has quite a warm glow. Specs are in the first post of the thread! Initial thoughts in the next post. :)

As the usual TB disclaimer goes, they get the idea across, but it's just not the same as in real life.

5sg.

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And some initial thoughts:

5sg.

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The TL;DR
An eye-catchingly beautiful instrument with a great feel and with a LOT of tonal variety.

She's a looker
The distinct top makes me think of quilt maple on steroids, but without being overwhelming. The headstock is definitely unique, but I find it one of the few headstock shapes I actually like, and quite a bit. Most headstocks for me are just "well.... I don't hate it." lol. Lots of subtle details like the Pau Ferro knobs, neck joint and the grain of the wenge in the back of the neck, to not so subtle details like the scroll and body shape will make this a real conversation piece.

Tonal variety
Initial thinking after some solo play time and jamming along with a few of my favorite songs to play live is that the pickup placement will help this bass cut through a mix like a shark with a frickin' laser beam attached to it's head. The front pickup has a solid P bass tone in passive, but with a little extra special sauce in active mode. The back pickup is VERY bright and punchy, so I don't know how often I'll use it soloed, but it really lends nicely to a mix with the front pickup. And it does sound quite nice in series mode with some high end backed off.

Lots of tonal combinations with just the switches alone (single coil, series and parallel), and the Darkglass preamp seems dialed into some nice frequencies for further tone sculpting. After only a little bit of play time on it through both my usual IEM rig* and an amp setup** it seems pretty easy to get through a variety of sonic territory... finger funk, slap, more aggressive rock stuff, and some really nice warm palm muting thump. There's some great (newer) Les Claypool influence in this bass, which was one of the original ideas. Maybe some Justin Chancellor as well (another tonal goal), but the verdict is still out there because his sound is notoriously difficult to capture. A really nice surprise was that there's even some great nasty Doug Johns Chump Suey funk going on.

*bass > pedalboard with HX Stomp > PC
**bass > Shuttle 6 set flat > Bergantino CN112

It's not a pickup ramp, but it is
At least, it that's what it feels like when my right hand gravitates to the sweet spot for sound. I haven't had much experience with a ramp and it's been a good while, so it might take a little getting used to. But not bad, and might actually help me tame my sometimes aggressive right hand attack.

String things
Cliff sent it with hex core DR Nickel Low Riders, which I've never tried and need to settle into I think. (To be clear though, it's not a slight on Cliff at all, we didn't really discuss strings much more than "nickel rounds.") I've only tried one other set of hex cores, and I thought the same thing about the D'Addario NYXLs... They seem a little stiffer/less supple than round cores to my hands, but as I've never tried the DRs before, I'll give them a proper go in a mix. Cliff was also awesome and sent an extra set of strings so I can try the difference between top load and string through body.

Ergonomically speaking
It's not QUITE as light as I was crossing fingers for, but at 9.4lbs, I think it'll still be pretty manageable for longer gigs because of the excellent balance when strapped up. My lightest bass (which is chambered) is only 9lbs, so this still qualifies in the lighter category for me... My Stingray is over a pound heavier (10.6lbs)! There's a slight bit of neck dive when sitting, but not enough to be a distraction. But when on a strap and standing, the balance is perfect and the neck is nice and thin.

Crossing the finish line
As with any new bass, it takes time to get past the honeymoon phase and know the instrument more personally, but this is a pretty amazing instrument overall and I'm already digging it a lot. The modern neck is very playable, there are a crazy amount of tonal options, and the looks... I mean, it'll be a conversation starter wherever she goes.
 
And some initial thoughts:

5sg.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The TL;DR
An eye-catchingly beautiful instrument with a great feel and with a LOT of tonal variety.

She's a looker
The distinct top makes me think of quilt maple on steroids, but without being overwhelming. The headstock is definitely unique, but I find it one of the few headstock shapes I actually like, and quite a bit. Most headstocks for me are just "well.... I don't hate it." lol. Lots of subtle details like the Pau Ferro knobs, neck joint and the grain of the wenge in the back of the neck, to not so subtle details like the scroll and body shape will make this a real conversation piece.

Tonal variety
Initial thinking after some solo play time and jamming along with a few of my favorite songs to play live is that the pickup placement will help this bass cut through a mix like a shark with a frickin' laser beam attached to it's head. The front pickup has a solid P bass tone in passive, but with a little extra special sauce in active mode. The back pickup is VERY bright and punchy, so I don't know how often I'll use it soloed, but it really lends nicely to a mix with the front pickup. And it does sound quite nice in series mode with some high end backed off.

Lots of tonal combinations with just the switches alone (single coil, series and parallel), and the Darkglass preamp seems dialed into some nice frequencies for further tone sculpting. After only a little bit of play time on it through both my usual IEM rig* and an amp setup** it seems pretty easy to get through a variety of sonic territory... finger funk, slap, more aggressive rock stuff, and some really nice warm palm muting thump. There's some great (newer) Les Claypool influence in this bass, which was one of the original ideas. Maybe some Justin Chancellor as well (another tonal goal), but the verdict is still out there because his sound is notoriously difficult to capture. A really nice surprise was that there's even some great nasty Doug Johns Chump Suey funk going on.

*bass > pedalboard with HX Stomp > PC
**bass > Shuttle 6 set flat > Bergantino CN112

It's not a pickup ramp, but it is
At least, it that's what it feels like when my right hand gravitates to the sweet spot for sound. I haven't had much experience with a ramp and it's been a good while, so it might take a little getting used to. But not bad, and might actually help me tame my sometimes aggressive right hand attack.

String things
Cliff sent it with hex core DR Nickel Low Riders, which I've never tried and need to settle into I think. (To be clear though, it's not a slight on Cliff at all, we didn't really discuss strings much more than "nickel rounds.") I've only tried one other set of hex cores, and I thought the same thing about the D'Addario NYXLs... They seem a little stiffer/less supple than round cores to my hands, but as I've never tried the DRs before, I'll give them a proper go in a mix. Cliff was also awesome and sent an extra set of strings so I can try the difference between top load and string through body.

Ergonomically speaking
It's not QUITE as light as I was crossing fingers for, but at 9.4lbs, I think it'll still be pretty manageable for longer gigs because of the excellent balance when strapped up. My lightest bass (which is chambered) is only 9lbs, so this still qualifies in the lighter category for me... My Stingray is over a pound heavier (10.6lbs)! There's a slight bit of neck dive when sitting, but not enough to be a distraction. But when on a strap and standing, the balance is perfect and the neck is nice and thin.

Crossing the finish line
As with any new bass, it takes time to get past the honeymoon phase and know the instrument more personally, but this is a pretty amazing instrument overall and I'm already digging it a lot. The modern neck is very playable, there are a crazy amount of tonal options, and the looks... I mean, it'll be a conversation starter wherever she goes.
Wow, that bass is stunning! One of my favorites that I’ve seen Cliff make, congratulations!!!

It’s funny you mentioned the strings Cliff uses, they feel stiff to me as well. I toss them as soon as I get the bass, but I never ask for a different brand because I’m going to want a fresh set anyways since the bass has been inside and outdoors in different temps over the last 3 to 4 days journey to me.

Again, beautiful bass my friend. It was so much fun watching it come together. I actually ordered three of my CB Basses new strings tonight just because I was looking forward to this bass and wanted to buy some bass stuff too!

Have a fun weekend.
-ScottM
 
Looking forward to hearing an update as well. I worked with Cliff yesterday to nail down some details on two of my builds. It sounds like my kid is getting African Blackwood on his bass.

I hope you’re enjoying your bass still @fivestringgecko!

-ScottM
 
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Apologies, friends... I've wanted to get back and update this thread, but Thanksgiving rolled directly to a trip out of the country, which is leading straight to family in town for Christmas, which will lead straight to New Year's... oy. My last gig was right before Thanksgiving, and I've barely had a chance to pick up a bass at all since then! :(

I've been meaning to make some recordings to post for an actual update, but I haven't had a chance to do so yet, so figured I'd pop in and post a "more quick thoughts" update until I can.

As mentioned previously, I've been a little lukewarm on the Darkglass preamp and am still toying with the idea of swapping it out, but... I think I'm getting used to it, and after some experimenting in soundcheck with my 80's band, it actually fits in the mix for that genre quite nicely. Quite clean and focused, and cuts through the mix like I thought it might. To my surprise, seems like my Bordwell just might become my main player for my 80's band. They even liked the look of it, which I was also surprised by. Because let's admit it: Basses that aren't Fender Shaped Objects sometimes scare people. But the keyboardist said, "it actually looks very 'Prince!'" (and we do play a number of Prince songs)

It's a little edgy for my favorite funk/Motown/pop sounds, but I've found that a little bump on the bass knob warms up the standard "Darkglass Sound" nice enough for now, and soloing the front pickup sounds KILLER. P Bass sound with some special sauce on it, probably because 1) the texture/character of the Big Rigs 2) active bass 3) front pickup position is further back than a standard P Bass. I do definitely miss having a tone knob like my trusty passive P bass or a few of my other (Pope, Kiesel, and John East) preamps.

The pickup positioning is also something I'm still getting used to as well. I've had basses for 20 years that were either P bass or dual pickup, and I use the front/P pickup as an anchor point and play just behind the pickup, and my brain is used to having space there. These pickups almost feel like playing on a ramp, since they're so close together. It changes the technique required a bit (not necessarily better or worse, just different), and this bass also encourages me to play in front of the neck pick up because of it. I've never used as much of the string length between bridge and neck as I tend to on this bass so far.
Between that and the coil tap switches, this has a wider range of sounds than I was even expecting. :bassist:

5sg.