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$75 or we'll let your house burn down

#150
If he forgot to pay they shouldn't make it so easy
If he decided not to pay it's his fault.

People say force it. TAXES SHOULD NOT BE FORCED. If I don't drive shouldn't have to pay for roads.

He was offered the stop fire before house is gone and he declined trying to save money and thats his rights and thats his consequences
 
#151
cassanova said:
Doesn't matter how many warnings he may have gotten to pay the fee. There is nothing the FD can say or do to make themselves right on not putting out a fire and watching the house burn to the ground. There should be certain services that ALL citizens get with no thought of a do not service list. This and law enforcement are 2 that instantly come to mind.
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You're right, it doesn't really matter how many chances the man had to pay the fee, or how many years he stuck a thumb in the local, almost certainly volunteer, fire department's eye because he refused to pay a $75 dollar fee that helps that fire department function and allows them to save people like that.
 
#152
HollowBassman said:
I wouldn't risk my life to save some stranger's property and wouldn't expect anyone else to either.

It would be completely different if there were people inside. Firefighters care enough about helping people that they make it their careers and risk their life doing it. Asking them to run into a wall of fire, without any kind of compensation, to save some jerk's television and magazine collection is more than a little unfair.
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oh please.....hosing down a fire is not that hazardous.....the average convenience store clerk faces more danger .....were not talking skyscrapers and ladder rescues.....firing up a pump is not that big a deal.....
 
#154
Jim Campbell said:
oh please.....hosing down a fire is not that hazardous.....the average convenience store clerk faces more danger .....were not talking skyscrapers and ladder rescues.....firing up a pump is not that big a deal.....
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And running into a building on fire to check to see if there are survivors inside is....not a part of firefighting?
 
#157
not my words said:
...why not let them opt in after the fact for a vastly increased fee? It would have to be many times larger than the $75 service charge, obviously, partly in order to deter others from opting in after the fact and partly because the service charge helps cover the fire department’s expenses going forward. If everyone opted out of the service charge on the assumption that they’d pay the larger after-the-fact fee if/when a fire broke out at home, the department would start the year with zero funds; but if the after-the-fact fee was large enough, some of the surplus revenue generated could be carried over from one year to the next so that there’d always be funding for operations. There must be some amount large enough that the after-the-fact fee would make putting out the fire the efficient, cost-effective choice for the department. The question is, is it so large that realistically no one could afford to pay it? Exit question: Admit it, you’d try to put the fire out. Wouldn’t you?
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I can't stand to see such destruction [my childhood home fell victim to an arson years ago], so if I had been part of the fire crew, i would have disobeyed orders, yet I do understand the personal responsibility argument sitting here by my PC.
 
#158
Let It Fall said:
cassanova: Only two taxes I think should be forced are education and... Police are ehh.. There usually late to the real crime good at writing tickets though. I guess there goodfot domestic disputes.
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Why education? Surely you could just pay for what school you go to and that would cover it? Same with police. I mean, if you have to pay a toll every time you drive on a road, and have to pay every time you walk on the footpath, surely paying to go to school, or paying the cops when they show up isn't any worse?

IMO More taxes = More public services = better.

Im going to stop talking before I get all political.
 

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