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8x10-2x4x10? mesa, ampeg, markbass?

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edgaroviz

Aug 8, 2011
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I'm thinking of getting a 8x10, or a 2x4x10 from mesa boogie, ampeg, or markbass.

8x10 is awesome, I played one a few days ago at my local ampeg importer, and when I felt the rumble of this amazing cab, with a tube amp, it was amazing how easy it is to shut up all the guitar players around to tried out amps... To say the truth..? I had to change my underware afterwards.
But... And it's a big but... It's a really heavy cab.

Getting a 2x4x10 would be better in case I don't want to carry a heavy beast like a 8x10, and more compact in case I do need a 8x10.

Though I don't know what's the difference amp wise, and how it'll respond.


I tried the Ampeg, and it's amazing, but I don't have a Mesa Boogie dealer close by, and I heard that the Markbass amps aren't that good on the low end should.

What do you guys thing about Markbass, Ampeg and Mesa Boogie?

Thanks, Edgar.
 
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All quality companies, all have cabs with different voicings that are 810's or can be made into 810's. But as far as I'm concerned, the Ampeg 810 is THE 810 and there's nothing quite like it, even though it's big. But in many ways, it's easier to get an 810 around than two 410's. Less deadlifting, more leverage. Only thing that's really harder is going upstairs. But you do have to have a car that'll fit it, so two 410he's are a good substitute that's voiced very much like the 810e except the 410he has a tweeter.
 
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JimmyM said:
All quality companies, all have cabs with different voicings that are 810's or can be made into 810's. But as far as I'm concerned, the Ampeg 810 is THE 810 and there's nothing quite like it, even though it's big. But in many ways, it's easier to get an 810 around than two 410's. Less deadlifting, more leverage. Only thing that's really harder is going upstairs. But you do have to have a car that'll fit it, so two 410he's are a good substitute that's voiced very much like the 810e except the 410he has a tweeter.
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I had a 2 seater, I can't get my bassman tv 15 in there, it'll be like trying to fit an 8x10 cab into a matchbox. I'll always have to get someone to help with the cab, any cab.

Oh... I live on the 4th floor... no elevator... REALLY tight hallway.
Don't think that hauling down/up stairs a 65kg cab is easy. Though going up and down, twice, for two 4x10 is much better.

Btw, the Fender Bassman tv 15" has a 350watt tube amp, granted it's just a single tube, but on the back it has a line out. Can I plug a 8x10 in there? Till I get another one.
I heard lots of stuff about the amp... Some say it's possible, some say it's not.
 
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only reason i'm going comment is;,if you live in an apartment it seems to me an 8x10 is way to much,,there's just so many opinions and it's based on what that person does,i look at bass players with'sound reinforcement' like 'entrance band' and she's using like a 1x15 or 1x18 cab and a head,laying down a killer tone while doing it

i want 2x4x10's because i have a stereo head i like,a lot:D,and i want the flexibilty,,,if i had my way i'd have Lemmy's pile of cabs heads and a gang to haul it for me(not that Lemmy is my ultimate bass god but he does show quite a large load of gear at live shows,have to respect that)

and,i know of a gigging bass player or two that utilises a couple single speaker cabs or 4x10's as nec. for the venue and a head,of course they have a PA micing them,,,blahblah,,8x10's are great if that's what you want go for it,,i can drive 2 of them@ 4 ohms but i can't load/haul 2 of them by myself,and where do i play them at:confused:,,have fun:D
 
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Well from my experience with the Boogie 810. It's nothing like the Ampeg. Problem is, only a few dealers actually stock it, the majority (like 98%) don't.
The only issue is weight. I'm screwed if I'm by myself in my 4x4 truck, cab is 173lbs I can't lift it myself and the truck is too tall. If I drive my smaller 2wd truck or Durango I can easily tilt it in, but overall it can be a bear to move.
 
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Caca de Kick said:
Well from my experience with the Boogie 810. It's nothing like the Ampeg. Problem is, only a few dealers actually stock it, the majority (like 98%) don't.
The only issue is weight. I'm screwed if I'm by myself in my 4x4 truck, cab is 173lbs I can't lift it myself and the truck is too tall. If I drive my smaller 2wd truck or Durango I can easily tilt it in, but overall it can be a bear to move.
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The Mesa is one heavy cab, it's easier hauling 2 8x10 Markbass's.
I have my eye one the Ampeg, it looks like it's the best of two worlds.

Sorry if that sounds funny, I don't know if I should call myself a new player, but I'm playing for 3 years now, and I never cared about amps, or cabs. Just played my old Squire, and Marshall 30W amp, till i got my Bassman tv 15 a year ago.
Why do people want to buy 2 cabs to run them in stereo, or mono, what's the difference?
 
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edgaroviz said:
Btw, the Fender Bassman tv 15" has a 350watt tube amp, granted it's just a single tube, but on the back it has a line out. Can I plug a 8x10 in there? Till I get another one.
I heard lots of stuff about the amp... Some say it's possible, some say it's not.
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You can line out to another amp and cab, but you can't hook up a second cab to it unless it has its own amp. That is one of the best combos I've ever heard, but doggone it, they made it completely unexpandable for extension cabs.
 
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edgaroviz said:
\Sorry if that sounds funny, I don't know if I should call myself a new player, but I'm playing for 3 years now, and I never cared about amps, or cabs. Just played my old Squire, and Marshall 30W amp, till i got my Bassman tv 15 a year ago.
Why do people want to buy 2 cabs to run them in stereo, or mono, what's the difference?
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Mostly people want to run them in mono and boost the wattage from their heads and make a lot more air movement and a sweeter tone with an extension cab. But again, the Bassman TV, while great, is impossible to add an extension cab.
 
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edgaroviz said:
Is it possible to line the Bassman tv out to the 8x10, so it will power only the 8x10? At least till I buy some amp head.
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You could go into it and disconnect the internal speaker and jury rig a speaker cord going from those wires to your 810. But the line out isn't meant to be used as a speaker out and won't work as one. That's for going to another amp and cab or going to a PA or recording device.
 
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4 flights up/down stairs no elevator and you want a 8x10? you are very dedicated to your craft sir :eek:
There are some nice 2x10 neo cabs out there that would be easy to load up/down stairs and into your small car. Who wants to ask for help everytime you load/transport your gear to a gig. That would get old real fast.
 
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JimmyM said:
All quality companies, all have cabs with different voicings that are 810's or can be made into 810's. But as far as I'm concerned, the Ampeg 810 is THE 810 and there's nothing quite like it, even though it's big. But in many ways, it's easier to get an 810 around than two 410's. Less deadlifting, more leverage. Only thing that's really harder is going upstairs. But you do have to have a car that'll fit it, so two 410he's are a good substitute that's voiced very much like the 810e except the 410he has a tweeter.
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This, but living on a 4th floor apartment makes it completely impractical.
 
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Randall said:
4 flights up/down stairs no elevator and you want a 8x10? you are very dedicated to your craft sir :eek:
There are some nice 2x10 neo cabs out there that would be easy to load up/down stairs and into your small car. Who wants to ask for help everytime you load/transport your gear to a gig. That would get old real fast.
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The Markbass 8x10 sound like a great idea, because it's like lighter than a 4x10 ampeg.
But I don't have a place where I can play it, and I heard some people says that it lacks low-end power.
 
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I used to do the 2-4x10's setup for awhile and it was nice to have the choice to use one for smaller gigs and both for larger, however it really became a lot of travel with and load in and out after every gig so I sold the two 4x10s and invested in a 6x10 and a Mesa PowerHouse 6x10 at that. Love this cab, solid built, and sounds simply awesome. They say the Mesa 6x10 is like the 8x10 without the extra weight.
 
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edgaroviz said:
The Markbass 8x10 sound like a great idea, because it's like lighter than a 4x10 ampeg.
But I don't have a place where I can play it, and I heard some people says that it lacks low-end power.
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I would agree. It's got a strong upper mid and feels a little thin on the bottom. But it's a way small sealed cab and that's what they do. You can dial it more if you need it, but I do greatly prefer the 810e low end.
 
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I'm thinking of going with an 8x10 MarkBass. I'll be using an AMPEG 4Pro. Considering the MB because of the weight factor. I play Metal and Down tune 5string to A.
Right now i use a Mark Bass Jeff Berlin 15 along with a MB New York 151 for 4 ohms at 500 watts.
Ive always kept my Ampeg 4pro. Also looking into a GK 4x12 or the Mesa Boogie 4x12. Just wondering what will be best.
 
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JimmyM said:
All quality companies, all have cabs with different voicings that are 810's or can be made into 810's. But as far as I'm concerned, the Ampeg 810 is THE 810 and there's nothing quite like it, even though it's big. But in many ways, it's easier to get an 810 around than two 410's. Less deadlifting, more leverage. Only thing that's really harder is going upstairs. But you do have to have a car that'll fit it, so two 410he's are a good substitute that's voiced very much like the 810e except the 410he has a tweeter.
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Shalom @edgaroviz! I've played a lot of gigs through a 410he and it is a very capable cab with a classic Ampeg tone. A recent festival we played had the 410he as a back line cab and with my Mesa M9 Carbine sending just 320 solid state watts @ 8ohms, it was more than enough cab to provide good, punchy volume and thick low end all across the stage. Two of them would be a massively capable stack with almost any amp into them. They are a bit heavy IMHO but depending on your needs and transport capabilities 2 Ampeg 410he cabinets is all you'll ever need.
Mesa cabs are top shelf in my experience (my main cab is a 4 ohm 600 watt Mesa Powerhouse 210) and for what your looking for, 2 of their powerhouse 410's would slay as well, but with 4 flights of stairs in your schlep, a 410 and a 210 or even 2 x 210's would be awesome and an easier carry. You would be shocked how much massive volume and low end 2 Mesa PH 210's can put out together!
Mark bass makes some great cabs (and heads) and I've never found their front ported 410 to be lacking in low end when playing on stage. At around 60lbs I believe, they are pretty lightweight for a 410. Also, here is a link to a new product they have. An 89lb sealed 810 cab!

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With your transport and and stair situation, Mark bass likely will provide the most lightweight, modular options of the group, although Mesa and Ampeg both have neo cab offering's, with the Mesa Subway series being of exceptional quality. Mark bass cabs are not the cheapest but they are not the most expensive cabs out there by any stroke. Good luck whichever you choose!
 

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