What about 2x(4x10) versus 1x(8x10) ??? Would it be the same, with the advantage of the first one being modular?
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8x10 - Why?
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Do a blind taste test.
Your amp through your normal set up THEN through a 810.
Even blindfolded you WILL tell the difference.
Your amp through your normal set up THEN through a 810.
Even blindfolded you WILL tell the difference.
+1. Even at lower volumes my ampeg 810 gives me the sound I like. I also have 2 Trace Elliott 4x10's that, together, only almost produce what I'm looking for. Thats why the Ampeg gets lugged to every show. That said, if I could afford a new cab that sounded like my 810 but weighed 100 lbs less and could give the amount of volume when needed I would buy one.
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Ampeg is in the 160's I believe.
Crazy.
I have an 810 Classic, and I can heave it around by myself. Not easily, but the fact that it's possible at all tells me that it doesn't weigh that much. They're not light, though. You can tell by the ADA compliant handlebar across the top
Tomorrow night I get to find out if my 810 will fit in the back of a Mercury Cougar 2-door without shredding the upholstery too much. I'll let you "it's too much to transport" guys know how it works out. Seems to me I've done it before, but I could be thinking of my 215.
I know for a fact that they weigh less than those Maytags that Geddy carts around on tour (I work at Sears Outlet, and those washers weigh about 300 lbs each).
Stairs.
Easier than a 4x10. Just pull the thing up and let the slide rails do their magic.
Curbs, no sweat.
The only time you need help is over gravel or sand.
Stairs.
Nope; stairs are easier, too. My coffin cabs don't have tiltback or casters, so there're a two-man carry unless I have a dolly handy, in which case stairs are still no problem. In narrow stairwells, it's MUCH easier for two people to carry each end of an 8x10 or pull up a dolly than than to have to bearhug two 4x10's and hope you don't get your arms bashed.
Stairs are still much easier with an 8x10 than with a 4x10. You lay the 8x10 on its back and drag it up along the skid bars on the back. A 4x10 you actually have to lift.
I prefer moving an 8x10 to a 2x10. BTW. I never have to actually lift it off the ground. Its always leaning against something and when Im moving it through a crowd my arms dont fall off if someone doesnt see me comming and I need to stop behind them.
You probably havent tried moving an 8x10.
For the record, Im going to be using my 71 SVT and 810 plus my 400+ and Schroeder 3101212 at our bar gig on Friday.
You guys dont realize what you are missing out on.
I prefer moving an 8x10 to a 2x10. BTW. I never have to actually lift it off the ground. Its always leaning against something and when Im moving it through a crowd my arms dont fall off if someone doesnt see me comming and I need to stop behind them.
You probably havent tried moving an 8x10.
For the record, Im going to be using my 71 SVT and 810 plus my 400+ and Schroeder 3101212 at our bar gig on Friday.
You guys dont realize what you are missing out on.
Any idea where to get some nice skid bars or w/e for my NV 610? I usually just carry it up and down stairs by myself (and sometimes my damn pussy guitarist has me carry an ****in heavy EV 215 up and down the stairs by myself too) and it gets old after a while lol. Other than stairs though, I find that my NV 610 is easier to lug around than my HT 210.
Getting a 100lb 4x10 up a narrow flight of stairs, even with two people, is one of the most frustrating things you can attempt in your musical career IMHO. I did it every weekend for a year and it was horrible.
8x10/4x12 ... not so bad, even solo.
8x10/4x12 ... not so bad, even solo.
It's easy with a 57lb 410 that you can pick up with one hand. I wouldn't try carrying two of them though. That'd just be showing off.
It's easy with a 57lb 410 that you can pick up with one hand. I wouldn't try carrying two of them though. That'd just be showing off.
Yea but then you have to like the way Neo speakers sound, which I don't
And admit it you still dig a knuckle on a doorjam every now and again
That doesn't sound like any fun.
You're right about that...it certainly doesn't provide the thrill like running full stacks but its kinder to my eardrums. I wear earplugs and still sometimes end up with a ringing sensation that lasts for a day or so.
Riis
How is it getting up on a stage with no stairs? I haven't used mine live yet but will in a couple of weeks. Hopefully I can fit the thing in the back seat of my Buick LeSabre! It isn't as deep as my SWR Big Ben and that fits no problem.
You know I've always wondered about this myself. About 4 days ago I played the NXNE festival in Toronto and used the rig they supplied, which was a full Marshall tube head and fridge. Granted it was cool to have such a huge setup blasting bass at your back, but completely unnecessary. I agree that it's mostly for show, because I don't think it's a tone argument. I kept an open mind, and I still think a 4x10 sounds better than anything.
IMO of course.
I'll stick with my rig.
IMO of course.
I'll stick with my rig.
