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9+ weeks for a Carvin?
- Thread starter jeff schmidt
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unatratnag said:
If you read the thread - you wouldn't think it's a flame - my point isn't that confusing.
unatratnag said:
Fair questions. Because I wanted to try a lefty 6 string with the wood combos of my choice in the least expensive way possible. Carvin is by far the cheapest way to accomplish that. That's a compliment in case it's not registering.
unatratnag said:The resale price really has nothing to do with the quality or what a bass can do.
The re-sale price is very much the market's perception of the instrument's quality. Again - it's not about what I think - it's the market.
FWIW - I'm finding my used Pedulla PentaBuzz isn't going to fetch as much as I think it's worth either. But even then I'm not going to take even CLOSE to the beating I have taken on both of my Carvins.
But ultimately the point of ALL of this - is really ONLY about getting the run around on the phone from Carvin.
If they told me when I called the first time that they ran into some issues and want to make sure I have the best bass they can make but it'll take another 3 weeks - this thread doesn't exist.
Like West Coast Bass said - customer service is customer service.
It's not even that HARD - it's just takes 1 person that gives a ****.
azzyrazzy said:Jeff, do you naturally play slightly in front of the beat?
I naturally miss the beat entirely.
west*coast*bass said:
I agree, CS is CS, but it DOES matter what the service is, because expectations for reasonable performance are different. If I stay home from work to meet the cable guy and he doesn't show, he's just screwed up; he's failed to perform as promised.
If a bass maker says, I estimate it'll be done in 6 weeks, and it isn't exactly, he HASN'T necessarily screwed up, because a level of imprecision is inherent in estimating the completion time of a customized instrument. And he HASN'T failed to perform as promised ... because he didn't promise delivery at an exact time. Where he does screw up is if he doesn't communicate clearly with the client. If you're saying that's where the CS issue is, not in whether the bass was done exactly in 6 weeks or not, then I agree.
jeff schmidt said:
There's your beef. As I said, call Marco if they're still not being straight with you. If you want someone to give a dang, Marco's the man.
jeff schmidt said:
Just curious, when you say "beating," are you thinking in absolute terms or in percentage terms? I ask just because I think in a way it can make more sense to think of it in the former terms. Example: I actually take a worse bath on a $3000 bass that I sell for $2000 than I do on a $1200 bass I sell for $400, even though with the first I'm getting 67% of the original price and with the second only 33%. One way I'm out $1000, the other I'm out only $800.
jeff schmidt said:
As I said earlier, I hope everything turns out well for you. I also understand that getting the run around when you want a staight answer is annoying. I also understand your point about bad Carvin resale value. I love Peaveys, they have the same problem even though their basses tend to be either good or great.
That said, you went out of your way to put down Carvin on several posts. Whether you meant or not, you came off like a snob. As I'm sure you know, players love their instruments and often feel loyal to their brand. Gratuitous putdowns just insult folks who may have had to bust their butts just to get a
"f'n Carvin."
You're a grown man, I can't tell you how to write, I'm just sharing how your post looked to me.
I'm going to agree with Jeff on the issue with him getting the run around from customer service. I'm also going to say I feel for him being a lefty as well.
I understand him not wanting to pay alot for a 6 string when he's not sure if he really wants a 6 (the whole lefty issue, again)...
That's all i'm going to say, i'm on my way to Birdland on 44th Street..
I understand him not wanting to pay alot for a 6 string when he's not sure if he really wants a 6 (the whole lefty issue, again)...
That's all i'm going to say, i'm on my way to Birdland on 44th Street..
Dr. Cheese said:
Look - If I can somehow manage to avoid mistaking my personal identity with the MTD and Pedulla basses I play - I expect no less from people who play F'N carvins.
Kdding.
I see your point Dr. Cheese. My intention was not to slam PEOPLE for the kind of bass they play - only the snobbish attitude I've gotten from the folks at carvin.
Richard Lindsey said:
You wouldn't happen to work in the PUBLIC sector would you?
Thanks for the tip on marco.
Jeff, I'm glad you can let off steam here at TB. At least we all have really good idea of what you are going through. Take care.
First, let me tell you that I think that Carvin makes the finest feeling 6 string basses. I could have bought anything I wanted... in my single days. And I bought two LB76. One of which I spent almost as much upgrading pickups and electronics, as the bass cost originally.
Secondly, I had the same problem ordering my first Carvin, in reguards to resale. I had a bassist friend of mine in college who was many many years older than I. He asked me 'are you buying this bass to resell it, or to enjoy it?' And that meant a lot to me. Especially since I love that bass, and still have it!
If I were you I would either talk to somebody else, preferrably a manager. Or I would call every hour on the hour telling them that they need to hunt down my bass and email me pics.
Carvin did change over to commissioned sales. Many good reps that I knew left (Some of them are on this forum quite often). I think that may have something to do with this new attitude.
Secondly, I had the same problem ordering my first Carvin, in reguards to resale. I had a bassist friend of mine in college who was many many years older than I. He asked me 'are you buying this bass to resell it, or to enjoy it?' And that meant a lot to me. Especially since I love that bass, and still have it!
If I were you I would either talk to somebody else, preferrably a manager. Or I would call every hour on the hour telling them that they need to hunt down my bass and email me pics.
Carvin did change over to commissioned sales. Many good reps that I knew left (Some of them are on this forum quite often). I think that may have something to do with this new attitude.
Yeah, try to get in touch with Marco (if he's still there, I hear there's been a lot of shakeup and turnover at Carvin lately). A little over a year ago, I had a bass kit on order, and while I was attempting to track its progress and whatnot, I was getting odd conflicting information. I emailed and Marco replied that he'd look into it and get things sorted. About a week later, my kit arrived.
Masher88
Believe in absurdities and you commit atrocities
I disagree with this statement. Supply and demand is the reason why certain basses fetch more money than others do in resale. It is not a representation of how well a bass is made.jeff schmidt said:
As someone mention earlier, some Peaveys are fine basses, but there are so many of them...it's not good for the resale. This doesn't take away from how good the bass is, though. EBMM Stingrays can be had for 5-600 bucks used on Ebay. Original cost at GC is around $11-1200..not including tax and a case. That's close to 40-45% off. They are GREAT basses, but there are just so many of them out there.
On the other hand, Alembics and Wals fetch multiple thousands becuase they are in limited supply.
Alright man, Good luck with your hunt for a six string. We have our values in different places I guess.
These comments are approaching crude. I hope you treat other musicians you play with better than this. Cheers.jeff schmidt said:
unatratnag said:
yeah I agree. He sounds like a pretentious pompus a$$. Maybe thats why he's getting such poor customer service.
Hope someone cuts you down a few pegs man. You've got alot of attitude and need to be humbled.
