91 MPH!

[Ed Goode]

I just made the trip to Woodcliff Lakes last week and going and coming it was very common to see people going between 85 and 90+mph.

Absolutely This state has some seriously agressive driving going on all of the time. That's what I meant earlier .... 80 is almost like the unspoken minimum speed.

BTW, next time you get up this way and have a few extra minutes give me a PM and I'll buy you the beverage of your choice ...

 

[Deacon_Blues]

I don't want this to be an attack on John Corzine. Whatever your politics, the man is laying in a hospital bed seriously injured. But, I do have this question. Are the meetings of state so important, that when a governor is late, state laws shouldn't apply? He was late for a meeting with Don Imus and the Rutgers BB team. Is that really worth putting the lives of the citizens in danger while your driving close to 30 MPH over the speed limit? Also he wasn't wearing a seatbelt?

Speaking of speeding, the laws in Finland are different from most countries. The fines you get for speeding are depending on your salary. Millionaires have been paying fines over €100 000 for speeding whereas a guy with a normal salary would pay between 200 and 1000 euros for the same. Those big sums sound freaking high, but it's the most equal system I know. Being rich should not make it easier for you to ignore/break the laws. A few years back, I got a fine of 350 euro, and I sure have been more careful after that....

 

[Relic]

Speaking of speeding, the laws in Finland are different from most countries. The fines you get for speeding are depending on your salary. Millionaires have been paying fines over €100 000 for speeding whereas a guy with a normal salary would pay between 200 and 1000 euros for the same. Those big sums sound freaking high, but it's the most equal system I know. Being rich should not make it easier for you to ignore/break the laws. A few years back, I got a fine of 350 euro, and I shure have been more careful after that....

That's actually a pretty cool system from the sound of it.

 

[soulgeezer]

Let's see -- McGreevey resigns and Cody takes over. Corzine gets in a car accident, Cody takes over...

All I can say is:

Don't elected governor in NJ while Richard Cody is next in line!

(That said, I wish he would have run in the last election. I'd have voted for him!)

 

[burk48237]

This might be an urban legend, but I've heard that he isn't required to wear a seatbelt, or at least that he can't be ticketed for not wearing one.

As for corruption, New Jersey may tie with New York City. I always wonder how it's possible that 70 some odd years ago we could afford to build all these bridges and tunnels, yet with all the NYC taxes we can't afford to paint them... hmmmm. Washington DC may also be a close call for having so many politicians in such a small area.

Our new motto in MI is "we're too inept to be corrupt"

 

[Relic]

(That said, I wish he would have run in the last election. I'd have voted for him!)

+1

 

[Brad Johnson]

Absolutely This state has some seriously agressive driving going on all of the time. That's what I meant earlier .... 80 is almost like the unspoken minimum speed.

BTW, next time you get up this way and have a few extra minutes give me a PM and I'll buy you the beverage of your choice ...

I'd like that, Ed. My company's regional office is in Woodcliff Lakes.

 

[Brad Johnson]

That's actually a pretty cool system from the sound of it.

That wouldn't work here... Joe Average would be crying on behalf of John Millionaire.

 

[Ed Goode]

I'd like that, Ed. My company's regional office is in Woodcliff Lakes.

 

[fenderx55]

That wouldn't work here... Joe Average would be crying on behalf of John Millionaire.

cough cough +1

 

[bburk]

Actually, nobody can be pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt. It's a secondary offense. One must be doing something else visibly wrong in order to be pulled over.

This is incorrect. Ever heard of "Click it or ticket"? This is a designated time where the police are actively patrolling around looking for unbelted persons pulling over vehicles and distributing violations.


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There are two types of safety belt laws: primary and secondary. A primary law allows a law enforcement officer to write a ticket if he or she simply observes an unbelted driver or passenger. Under a secondary law, an officer cannot ticket anyone for a safety belt violation unless the motorist is stopped for another infraction. Primary laws are very effective in increasing safety belt use. In 2002, belt use in States with primary laws was 80 percent, compared with 69 percent in States without primary laws. (NHTSA, National Occupant Protection Use Survey, June 2002)
Teen safety belt use is significantly higher in States with primary safety belt laws than in States with secondary laws. (National Safety Council, Teenage Safety Belt Use, 2002)
As of April 2003, only 18 States, Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia had primary safety belt laws. The primary-law States are Alabama, California, Connecticut, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas and Washington. New Hampshire is the only State that has no adult safety belt law.

Note NJ listed there. It's the same here in WA, nice eh?

 

[Relic]

That wouldn't work here... Joe Average would be crying on behalf of John Millionaire.

Agreed whole-heartedly.
I said it sounded like a cool system. therefor I KNOW it wouldn't work here based on that alone.

 

[Brad Johnson]

Agreed whole-heartedly.
I said it sounded like a cool system. therefor I KNOW it wouldn't work here based on that alone.

 

[James Hart]

This is incorrect. Ever heard of "Click it or ticket"? This is a designated time where the police are actively patrolling around looking for unbelted persons pulling over vehicles and distributing violations.

I can vouch for that! My wife got pulled over because we both didn't have belts on.... no other reason.