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A heavyweight phaser battle

Didn't think this was worth starting a new thread, but have you (or anyone) used a diamond phaser? I like diamond, and I like phasers, and its entirely possible that I'm too lazy to build one, so the diamond is looking like a solid option.

Well, so are a bunch of others, but we'll be patriotic for now and look at the Canadian Solution.

The Diamond is nice. I'm not a fan of 2 stage phasers but in that mode I liked it better than the Tone Factor Nebula which is a quality clone of the old Phase 45 (I believe). Gives a nice subtle watery quality, but IMO nearly invisible in a mix without dirt.

The six stage mode is nice. I liked the Maxon PH-350 a bit more but that's a bit apples and oranges. The Maxon has a vocal, hi-fi quality to it and the Diamond has a more organic tone with more "swirl". I like the dry kill on guitar and on bass with a high rate for synthy stuff, but otherwise it wasn't a big feature for me.

My only problem with the Diamond is that I used a pretty narrow range of its features (6 stage, no "vibe" mode, rate somewhere in the middle of the range) for a pedal that is a decent chunk of change. Still, as six stage phasers go I'd it even with or above the Roland AP-2, just below my two favorites, the PH-350 and MuTron Phasor II.

Hope that helps
 
Yeah, that does help. Thanks.

I like the 2/6 stage switch... I hate how things are too subtle clean, or too obvious distorted, so a switch to compesnsate is great. I doubt I'd hit up the dry kill, so that's kind of a wasted feature for me.

Pretty much other than rate/depth, I love having a feedback/regen and volume control, so that's a plus for the diamond... It covers a bunch of the stuff I like in a phaser, but looks huge and has some features I'd never touch.

So, I'm still pretty torn, but appreciate the thoughts on the diamond. I like small stone-y phasers... but am eyeing up those mad professor and cusak pedals as well as the diamond.
 
Let me preface this post by saying there are no clips. Honestly, I'd like to set something up to record clips in the future, but I'm not really sure which route to go, so if anyone has any advice I'd be willing to listen. I have a Zoom H2 on the way (for capturing ideas mostly) but I'm not sure it's ideal for effects clips.

Anyway, here are the two phasers I currently have:
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So here's a quick rundown:

Toadworks Phantasm

Very musical and incredibly tweakable. As the toadworks owner posted, it has a larger offset than other 4 stage phasers. I wouldn't say that it sounds like a 6 stage, but there is a noticeable difference compared to a normal script circuit phaser. It has VERY low noise (less than any other phaser I've tried) and the AC switches (Attack Controlled Depth and Attack Controlled Sweep) are very cool.

The Rate knob has a wide range (though I find most phasers unusable after a certain speed anyway) and width and axis knobs give you a lot of control over the range that gets swept through and where that sweep starts.

Alas, here's the problem I have with it. It simply isn't thick enough for me. Believe me, I wanted to love this phaser, but this is a deal breaker for me. Now, to be fair, I like a very thick phase sound and the Phantasm is about on par with the MXR and thicker than the Nebula from what I remember of it. Not that it matters much here, but it sounds incredible on guitar. But without taking this to a rehearsal or gig I already know that it isn't thick enough to be heard in a mix. It's headed back. :bawl:

Maxon PH-350 Rotary Phaser

This one is less cut and dried. There are things I love about this pedal and things I hate.

What I love: With three knobs and three different stages (4, 6, & 10) this phaser has a wide range of sounds. You can go from warm vintage phasing to pseudo flange to burpy, synthetic sounds. Turning the feedback further into the positive range gives the phasing a fairly vocal quality. As a side note, I was disappointed with the negative feedback settings on this pedal until I tried the negative feedback on the Phantasm and found the same thing. Not only do both sound subtle on bass, I'm just not a fan of the sound.

What I hate: The wet/dry mix is automatically set at 50/50. I know you can run this thing in stereo and I think that means you'd get completely wet and dry signals out of each output but I don't know. If that is the case, I wish they would have included a switch between a 50/50 and a 100% wet mix. Some of the tones I like the most are hard to hear in a mix because of this.

Also, this thing makes some cool noises, but many of them take on a very "plastic" feel, something I initially liked about my Boss PH-3 but ultimately tired of. Another big problem is that this thing goes into crazy self-oscillation at either extreme of the feedback knob. Last band practice I turned on my amp without realizing the feedback knob had been bumped during the drive. It was ear piercing. It would be one thing if this was usable, but to me it's just a drawback.

Ultimately what it comes down to with this phaser is that I like it a lot but I don't love it. And at this price point I should love it. At the moment I'm thinking both of them are headed back.

However I DO want a phaser on my board so I'm not sure what direction to go. I may try out the Tap-A-Phase, though right now I'm thinking the Psilocybe is the way to go for a thick phase. Other than that? I am considering going back to the Nano Stone that I sold quite a while ago. I didn't love that phaser either, but I was OK with not loving it considering the price tag.

I tweaked the internal trim pots on my Phantasm to get it good for bass.
 

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