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About consistency and playing without mistakes

Are you playing your own basslines or reading?

If they are your own, don’t be afraid to make them simpler and less busy.

Duck Dunn made a career out of consciously trying to make everything he played simpler and simpler, until he had only the very essence of each song, and then he focused on playing that perfectly every time.

Its literally the opposite of the way I usually play, but it really works for some people.

You might be amazed after you play something that you might personally think to yourself, “…wow, that was the most boring bass line ever…”
And then two or three people come up and tell you how great it sounded, or (even better) how great the whole band sounded.
 
Will it ever happen?

I am 30 and started playing during the pandemic (mostly self thought, but I finally started taking lessons). Last April I started playing in bands and I am now in a metal cover band, and a jazz group from my local music school that covers mainly bossa nova stuff. I never played out yet.

I practice every day, and spend a lot of time perfecting the material I play with both bands. Sure enough, I still have to play a single piece perfectly at reharsal. Either I miss the drummer slightly, fret a note poorly, mess up the dynamics, play the wrong note, sometimes even plain forget how the next part goes. I can feel when I get ‘in the zone’ and everything is just perfect, but most times I am either overthinking, or getting stupidly distracted and then the mistake happens.

The other cats seems to be happy with my playing, but I really want to be able to play perfectly ‘most of the times’ as opposed to ‘most of the tune’… Some times I think it’s no biggie and I will get there, since I am still a green player with little experience…Othertimes I get discouraged and think it will never happen: it’s just beyond me, I am not really cut for this and all that stuff…

What do you people think? Any word of advice? Did you also struggle with consistency? When did you stop making mistakes? Or do they just keep happening and we just learn to mask them and live with it?

As was already said and will probably be said many more times: You will never play perfect all the time. You’ll never stop making mistakes. Nobody does. Even the greatest of the great will tell you they make mistakes. It’s a thing I hear in interviews all the time.

I think one of the things great players are able to do, and it’s something I think you’re somewhat aware of, is get “in the zone” really easily and stay there. Some people call it the zone; some call it a Flow State. Some call it other things. Regardless of what it’s called, it sometimes seems like it’s some mystical place you accidentally arrive, but you can actually train yourself to turn it on actively and deliberately. It’s a skill that takes practice just like all the physical aspects of playing bass.

For me it’s less about focusing on the bass playing or the music, and more about “thinking in music.” Less about clearing my mind from other thoughts and more about not having them. (A bit woo woo sounding, I know, but it’s not as woo woo as it sounds.)

It’s kinda like when a baseball player gets up to bat and they do their routine: tap the plate, dig in their foot, shake their ass, batter’s stance. The “ritualistic” motions put their brain in “batting mode.” They don’t have to actively think about batting. They’re in batting mode. Their brain just thinks batting.

If there’s a small deliberate routine you can do before playing, your brain will begin to associate that with Bass Playing Mode.

For instance, for me, almost every single time I play at home I start with the Staple Singer’s “I’ll take you there.” Since I play it every time, not only is it my warm-up tune, but it puts my brain in Bass Playing Mode. It turns on the zone. So any time I play, even if I can’t play the whole song, I’ll play the riff from that song once or twice (even with the volume off if i have to). If my instrument is already on stage before I play, before I go on stage I’ll close my eyes and visualize myself playing it, audiate the bass line, and move my fingers, all without the bass. Still works.

It doesn’t have to be a song. It can be a riff or a certain set of motions like a baseball player.

In time, I figured out how to catch my brain when it dropped out of the zone and now I usually can just turn the zone back on. I usually catch myself dropping out of the zone because I notice a couple “mistakes.” Because I make mistakes. We all do.

All that aside, you just started playing within the past 3 years, during the pandemic? That’s nothing! And I don’t mean that in a demeaning way. I mean that in a really great way: You already have 3 years or so under your belt and You’ll keep getting better. You have the rest of your life to keep getting better, and if you keep deliberately practicing and learning and loving music, you will. So don’t sweat the mistakes. Once a mistake is played it’s lost to time. You can’t go back and change it, so keep playing. (Of course, if you’re learning something or practicing it, stopping and doing it again slower until it’s correct is important. You don’t want to practice mistakes repeatedly and thereby train mistakes into muscle memory. Proper practice is important.) But when you’re playing with other people, don’t think about the bad thing you just played. Think about all the good ones you’re going to play.

And I think the best musicians make their worst mistakes sounds like great on-purposes. That’s what I gotta figure out how to do.
 
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I don't think I've ever had a perfect performance, either practicing, noodling around, on stage or recording. Best I can claim is maybe a 90% performance?

You will fret out. You will make string noise. You will miss a note. You will play the wrong note. You will jump to the wrong section. You will push the note when it's straight and vice versa. You will be ahead/behind the beat. You will play an uninspiring riff. Etc, etc.

I have done all that and still do all that. Can it be frustrating? Absolutely. Is there anything I'd rather be doing? No way.

Record yourself and try to listen objectively. It's never as bad as you think it may be.
 
Will it ever happen?

I am 30 and started playing during the pandemic (mostly self thought, but I finally started taking lessons). Last April I started playing in bands and I am now in a metal cover band, and a jazz group from my local music school that covers mainly bossa nova stuff. I never played out yet.

I practice every day, and spend a lot of time perfecting the material I play with both bands. Sure enough, I still have to play a single piece perfectly at reharsal. Either I miss the drummer slightly, fret a note poorly, mess up the dynamics, play the wrong note, sometimes even plain forget how the next part goes. I can feel when I get ‘in the zone’ and everything is just perfect, but most times I am either overthinking, or getting stupidly distracted and then the mistake happens.

The other cats seems to be happy with my playing, but I really want to be able to play perfectly ‘most of the times’ as opposed to ‘most of the tune’… Some times I think it’s no biggie and I will get there, since I am still a green player with little experience…Othertimes I get discouraged and think it will never happen: it’s just beyond me, I am not really cut for this and all that stuff…

What do you people think? Any word of advice? Did you also struggle with consistency? When did you stop making mistakes? Or do they just keep happening and we just learn to mask them and live with it?
Never stop striving for perfection but don't let mistakes deter you from playing. Everyone makes mistakes but as long as you are making fewer and fewer mistakes, you're improving! It's a journey.
 
Mistakes are not a problem. I make a slew of them every gig. Just keep going. Nobody notices.

What you don’t want is the whopper. Something just so bad that even non musicians notice. Which I have also done on occasion. I did one a while back - bass break that had me playing just two notes solo, and I blew BOTH of them - it was so bad that the audience started laughing, the whole band started laughing, and I was crying from laughing so hard. We just started the song over again. Nobody died, y’know?
 
There's no magic; if just takes time. The more time you put into practicing, the less frequently you'll make mistakes at rehearsal and in performance. And imo you never "arrive" and can never stop practicing. It's a lifelong commitment if you want to play at that level.
 
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First, don’t aim for perfection. Aim for growth.
Second, more important than hitting every note exactly is how well you can maintain your concentration so the next note is back on target.
Everyone makes mistakes. If you make like a thousand mistakes in a row really fast you’ll be the next Pat Metheny. But I digress. Focus on being part of the band. Focus on the flow of the songs so if/when you dink one note it won’t derail the other players. That’s more important. The precision will come.
 
IMO that consistency only comes with how much and how often you play. Practicing with other people is different than playing by yourself. Playing in front of people at a gig is different than practicing with other people. BUT it all starts with repetition by yourself.

So take the passages that make you uncomfortable, or throw you off in the group setting, and when you practice on your own, work on those spots until they don't. As far as fretting and technique go, old school exercises go a long way; muscle memory.
 
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...since I am still a green player with little experience…
There's your answer, right there. It just takes time and repetition on songs. I might overthink a song and make a mistake, and then six years later, with the same band doing a lot of the same set list, it's like the fingers doing their own thing while I'm thinking of something else in the show. You'll get there.
 
We are also depending upon the consistency of our band mates when performing either at rehearsal and especially live. After 3 years with the current band, I am finally coming into 'my-own' with them. By that I mean, I have a set default-pattern for every song that I can play loosely, or quite on point. For ex: MARINES, IF (when) all Hell breaks loose, remember your training. Always have a fall back plan. With every song we do (about 50-60 now), I have a set composed-pattern that depending upon the night, feel, how well I'm hearing the others, I work from.

As I'm playing a song, I get as far away from thinking about what I'm doing. Like mentioned earlier, too much concentration doesn't always lead to sticking the landings. Paying attention to what's going on with the other musicians is likely the proper path.
 
Clams happen. Keep grooving and don’t give anybody the stinkeye, even the drummer :smug:

I became a better golfer when my misses improved. Same thing with bass, misses are so brief and fleeting that nobody notices. If you know the song you get right back on track. So I practice until I know the song well. When I was a young musician, an older cat told me, “Don’t practice ’til you get it right, practice ‘til you don’t get it wrong.” Understanding that we’re humans and not machines, we can cut ourselves a little slack about a dropped note here or there. But if a mistake keeps happening at the same place, that’s what he was talking about.
 

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