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Double Bass adjustable neck basses

I've had a couple of very nice vintage guitars that had the neck and tail blocks with the grain running the same direction as the ribs. One of them had a hard fall that hit the endpoint, cracked the block, and then zippered all the way up both sides and cracked the neck block- basically split the guitar in half.....I'd never want that around the endpoint on a bass; even with cross grained structure, they break often from impact and have a tremendous amount of stress in that area. A crack running completely through the c bout and both blocks sounds like an unnecessary lesson that I don't need to reinvent....

I've spend most of my lifetime working around and redesigning areas of instruments that everyone else told me I had to do another way that just didn't seem logical to me. By about age 13 I gave up listening to old crusty types telling me, "You can't do that!"....I support you new ideas and innovation 100%. For me, it seems like only abput 20% of the time do they work out well on the first go, but often a series of 3-4 unsuccessful attempts lead to little advances that wind up exactly where I wanted to go the 5th time and It allows me to get all of that stuff out of my head.

I believe it was George Bernard Shaw who said that the people sitting around telling the world it can't be done need to shut up and get out of the way of the people who are doing it.

Is that really a banner ad for Nordstrom poser workbooks that I'm seeing flashing up on the screen as I type this????????? If is, we're circling the drain.........

J.
 
Gosh James, it does seem I've just been called crusty, and by a complete stranger no less. If I weren't busy smirking at the hilarity of the thought I might actually be offended.

But no, all in good fun I know, and that might not have been your intention either... My intention, in picking out a few points and offering my own thoughts, was to help the inventive process along by providing different perspectives on the various problems mentioned in re-inventing the doublebass. The woods involved here are not cheap, nor are they becoming any more plentiful, so it's in everyone's better interest to help out during the theoretical phase rather than just cynically sit back and watch as new folks make their own mistakes and waste who knows how much wood and how many hours. Learning by our mistakes is fine, but where's the harm in offering a bit of advice. Like you're doing James, with your comment about parallel-grained endblocks.

I'd actually wondered more than a couple of times about guitars coming un-zipped when I've looked inside and seen a rather thin and light looking mahogany endblock with grain running parallel to a similar rib. And having repaired a couple of guitars with splits running right around one side, I've further wondered why the makers didn't take the simple precaution of gluing in a couple of pieces of linen. Sure doesn't help the sound of a guitar to be repaired all the way along a rib, and a bit of insurance generally weighs less (mutes less) than the amount of material needed to restore stability after a break like that. Further, I can only imagine it as a sad but hilarious Youtube video when some poor schlep is digging into his bass on stage, only to have the whole belly fold up into his face because the parallel-grained endblock splits in half. More sad than funny, really..
 
Gerard, I was I no way referring to you as being one of the crusty types. I'd guess that you,ve got a looooooong way to go if you want to join that club.:) I really like your bass design on many different levels. My intention was that I 've met countless folks with a passion and intent building instruments with areas that don't always agree with others or make sense to folks who have been building for quite a while, myself included among that group on a daily basis. One of the interesting things about going against tried and true advice is that I knowingly accept regular amounts of failure with tested and proven ideas in the understanding that often very good and high functioning results come out of the process. Often it is going through the process that teaches me the lesson I'm after and not the design issues.

I agree that it is frustrating to go through a lot of materials when they are difficult to find, but even my nerdy mandolin building buddies complain about not being able to find what they want in that small size...I built a series of mandolins with backs carved from Brazilian rosewood this year . The results were fantastic; as much as I've fantasizes about scaling the design up to a bass, it's never going to happen!

J
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I think you hit the DIY thing on the head James. It is almost an affliction to even think that one/me can come up w/anything new when say the art of DB construction etc is so well laid over over centuries. BUT that is not going to stop the tinkerers who think they have a New idea. The process of figuring things out is the real joy for me, risk and failure are part of the learning curve that makes it all fun. The worse thing that can happen is after hours of work the THING ends up as firewood. Ideally something is learned and that knowledge is applied again and again.

Gerard, I was I no way referring to you as being one of the crusty types. I'd guess that you,ve got a looooooong way to go if you want to join that club.:) I really like your bass design on many different levels. My intention was that I 've met countless folks with a passion and intent building instruments with areas that don't always agree with others or make sense to folks who have been building for quite a while, myself included among that group on a daily basis. One of the interesting things about going against tried and true advice is that I knowingly accept regular amounts of failure with tested and proven ideas in the understanding that often very good and high functioning results come out of the process. Often it is going through the process that teaches me the lesson I'm after and not the design issues.

I agree that it is frustrating to go through a lot of materials when they are difficult to find, but even my nerdy mandolin building buddies complain about not being able to find what they want in that small size...I built a series of mandolins with backs carved from Brazilian rosewood this year . The results were fantastic; as much as I've fantasizes about scaling the design up to a bass, it's never going to happen!

J
Www.condino.com