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Adler sets new record!

Originally posted by john turner
it does change the timbre of the conversation somewhat, though, doesn't it? it would be one thing if mike adler came here and posted "check ME out, i built the first 11 string bass". that would sort of imply that props and brag-i-tude are what motivated, at least in part, the instrument's construction.

just wanted to add my usual 2 cents...

Mike Adler is a really good guy. zero ego and totally sincere. everyone in his booth was down-to-earth, approachable, and helpful. plus, they had candy!

:D

from the lows,


Stew
 
Originally posted by john turner
it does change the timbre of the conversation somewhat, though, doesn't it? it would be one thing if mike adler came here and posted "check ME out, i built the first 11 string bass". that would sort of imply that props and brag-i-tude are what motivated, at least in part, the instrument's construction.

It could... if that was the intent. It wasn't:D

Think about what you finished with... implying that props and bragging rights were motivation for construction is not tied solely to a statement from the builder's POV, it could just as easily have come from the owner, etc. Either way, it's not necessarily a bad thing IMO.

"I built" doesn't have to come from the builder's mouth. When my wife and I say "we built" our house, it doesn't mean we physically built it. It's a part of the language we speak.

Really, what I said was a simple statement. If taken in context, just the very fact that a 12 existed would elicit the response I mentioned from some people. THAT was the point:D

If anyone is still confused about my intent, sorry. This was in no way pointed at any builder:D

Seriously, I didn't intend for my innocuous little post to become fodder for this perpetual pschyo-drama (we do have the same thing every time something like this happens), just an aside. It was a simple and I think legitimate observation.

Carry on.
:D
 
Originally posted by Stewmc5222
just wanted to add my usual 2 cents...

Mike Adler is a really good guy. zero ego and totally sincere. everyone in his booth was down-to-earth, approachable, and helpful. plus, they had candy!

:D

from the lows,


Stew

yeah, they were very nice. mike's a great guy, i wish him the best of luck in his endeavours.
 
Originally posted by Brad Johnson

Really, what I said was a simple statement. If taken in context, just the very fact that a 12 existed would elicit the response I mentioned from some people. THAT was the point:D

i agree, it's a question of degrees, and i understood your intent perfectly :) i just wanted to make sure that some other folks reading the thread didn't think that perhaps the builder was the one starting the thread.

like i said, a very fine point :)
 
Originally posted by xush
hey... :-(

Originally posted by conical johnson
For that metter, for what to we need drummers...

Drummists can never be replaced!

I actually deleted a large part of my post because I felt it was going off topic a little, but, somehow, I missed the drummer part, so, for clarity's sake, my original post would've gone something like this:

People sometimes ask why I don't just play guitar, if I'm going to be using the higher registers on my bass so often (which, for the record, is a 4-string). To this, I typically respond, "if it's all about range, why doesn't everybody just play piano?" This also ties in with the old comment "who needs a bass player when the keyboard player has a left hand?" To this, I say, "I suppose, then, there's no reason for a guitarist when the keyboard player has a right hand." For that matter, for what do we need drummers when the keyboard player's got a built-in drum machine? :rolleyes:

As you can see, this begins to ramble and go OT, so I decided to cut it out. Sorry for the confusion, and for shoving you into a chasm of drum despair, Mark. Your life would be more fulfilling if you didn't seek my approval for everything. But it wouldn't hurt you to marry a nice doctor. And I suppose it's too much to ask that he's Jewish? :hmm:

Anyway, suffice it to say that I support EVERYBODY in wherever they want to take their art, as long as no dogs get hurt. I have a cat you can use, however.
 
(Sorry for my english I'm chilen)
I find really stupid the commentaries some people are giving. first its a bass and Its an extended range bass. and I can be unnesesary for you but that doesnt mean that its "UNNESESARY"if you play a 4 strings its like a 7 strings a lot more strings but I dont think its a "joke" I play a 7 and I know there are 8 9 and 10 strings too but 7 is like the beggining of the extended range basses and If you knew how this basses play and work you'll know that 11 strings is not unnesesary but I would say very interesting and for the Fashionists looks are not everything.

well in conclusion I think that this bass is an very interesting instrument and I dont find it any more wierd than any bass its just one more extended range bass.
 
Originally posted by john turner
i agree, it's a question of degrees, and i understood your intent perfectly :) i just wanted to make sure that some other folks reading the thread didn't think that perhaps the builder was the one starting the thread.

like i said, a very fine point :)

Glad you pointed it out. It should be crystal clear now:D
 
Okay, sorry to bring up mindless bickering that stopped earlier on but this really ticks me off as a musician.

Originally posted by Mark Latimour
In fact, theres a guy in Melbourne who places the drums on the street on a pair of buckets turned upside down? Its got its place, but I dare anyone not to walk past and laugh at it!

I wouldn't laugh. How would YOU like someone to mock your instrument - conventional or not? The drummer for my last band plays the wooden spoons and trust me you wouldn't want to laugh at him. Spoons, buckets, Fender Jazz Basses - they ARE ALL instruments. Anything can be and should be embraced as such. Hmmm... I take it that if someone was missing an eye and had a prostetic or better yet an eye patch you would laugh at them because it's not the real deal? If you want something that relates more to the 11-string... would you laugh at the person it because to YOU it's useless?


Some people would argue that drugs enhance musical creativity - I still laugh at people who say this. Does that make me immature?

Drugs are not a laughing matter. You must be insecure in some way to make a comment like this. Absolutely intollerable IMO.

Again, I apologize to rehash this stuff but I feel as musicians we need to think outside of the box. Sorry if i sound too preachy, but without unorthodox thinking would we have washbucket basses or even bass guitars?
 
i don't know. i'm not a FAN of the extended range basses, but i don't think that they are unnessecary at all though. i don't really see the use for 11 though. i mean, i picked up my first 9 string, and that was a huge neck, i can't imagine an 11 ( i didn't get to hold it :p ).
whatever.
 
Originally posted by snapple


Drugs are not a laughing matter. You must be insecure in some way to make a comment like this. Absolutely intollerable IMO.


Maybe you should reread my post a little more carfully before getting so wound up. I said that I laugh at people who "advocate drugs as a way to extend musical creativity". In other words - I treat that attitude with derision.

Relax mate - we are on the same team..

(Im not going to address the other point because its been covered and im not bringing that crap up again).
 
Regarding Mike Adler,
Really a sweet cat. Like someone said earlier, zero ego. His shop is only about 10 minutes from Carey Nordstrand's...next time I'm up there, I should stop by! His girlfriend (I forget her name, my apologies) is also a total and complete sweetheart! Probably one of the nicest people I met at NAMM! She picks out all of his wood (okay, okay, keep your mind out of the gutter)! How cool to have a girlfriend who's equally as passionate about what he's doing!
He made a passive 4 string singlecut in amber for someone. I wish it was available for sale; I would have bought it! It had Villex pickups with some crazy switching system that worked great at pronouncing the mids.....best passive system I've ever heard!
Good luck to Mike and his crew; I hope in this luthier-filled world, he makes his way successfully!
 
The Amber SC you mention is mine and Im very much proud of it and of Mike as well,me and Mike got together on the electronics and I feel it turned out great.William Villex was open mineded enough to put the system together and I thank him for that and yes the whole system is passive,no one could believe it,you should of saw everyones face when I would mention that the Bass was Passive.the same system that is in the 4 string is in the Blue 8 string that was there(that's mines as well)but there's a Piezo system from Graphtech added in the 8.and Mikes girl friends name is Malissa a very sweet and passionet person.
 
Originally posted by JAUQO III-X
The Amber SC you mention is mine and Im very much proud of it and of Mike as well,me and Mike got together on the electronics and I feel it turned out great.William Villex was open mineded enough to put the system together and I thank him for that and yes the whole system is passive,no one could believe it,you should of saw everyones face when I would mention that the Bass was Passive.the same system that is in the 4 string is in the Blue 8 string that was there(that's mines as well)but there's a Piezo system from Graphtech added in the 8.and Mikes girl friends name is Malissa a very sweet and passionet person.

care to give any details on the passive system. I am a fan of good passive systems. Plus, I like enhanced mids.
 
Under each pickup covering are two single coil pickups specificly wound to me and Mikes Specs by Willem Villex,there is a switch for the front and back pickup groupings that goes from both coils on to just having one on ther is no hum at all and theres a boost switch and when its on you notice a big overall change in sound.the electronics consist of two volume,1 midrange and 1 Bass knob.and if you weren't told that it's a passive system Im sure you would think it's Active(there is no batterie nowhere in this Bass)the output is very very clean and pronounced,I'm able to get a very modern funk sound to a clean studio clarity and it even sounds like a Bass.