AER... why don't you cater for us...???

Discussion in 'Amps, Mics & Pickups [DB]' started by biddypatrick, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. biddypatrick

    biddypatrick

    May 4, 2007
    Portugal
    Does any one else wish that Aer would make either a combo or cab that is light weight...? They have combos for EB but the combo for DB is heavy and pretty bloody pricey too... C'mon Aer...make a portable DB combo and/or cab..
     
  2. Ric Vice

    Ric Vice Supporting Member

    Jul 2, 2005
    Olivette, Missouri
    BPatrick,

    Well, that would be really nice, but I kinda think of AER as the Glockenklang of amplifiers for acoustic instruments, with only one real bass model. The first version of the Bass Cube actually had three channels, which meant that you could have two inputs for the upright and another for the electric. If they are gonna call it a true bass amp then it's going to do just that, and unfortunately the weight vs size vs volume paradox comes into play every time. Who knows though, things are always improving.


    Ric
     
  3. biddypatrick

    biddypatrick

    May 4, 2007
    Portugal
    Let's hope so Ric...! I've seen the basscube, never tried it tho'..it's a mutha. I have the alpha 40watt. I use it to sing through when the environment is small, or a monitor when the FOH speakers are in use..it's also a mutha..the Rolls Royce without a doubt..
     
  4. Eric Hochberg

    Eric Hochberg Supporting Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    Chicago
  5. bassist14

    bassist14

    Oct 17, 2005
    Germany
    thanks eric
     
  6. biddypatrick

    biddypatrick

    May 4, 2007
    Portugal
    I thought the bottom line series were BG amps..? I read a review from a guy who used it with DB and they liked it because it was very mid range sounding...but yeh..something like that for DB would be a killer wouldn't it...dreaming...dreaming... c'mon AER!!
     
  7. Ric Vice

    Ric Vice Supporting Member

    Jul 2, 2005
    Olivette, Missouri
    B Patrick,
    From the ZZ sounds site "The AER Bottom Line Amp One is a professional, compact and high-performance amplifier. The Amp One is a small sized 200 watt amplifier (preamp plus power amplifier) specially designed to amplify electric bass guitar. True reproduction and clear definition with substantial sound pressure makes this handy combo your prime priority."
    Of course that doesn't necessarily mean that the amp wouldn't work for upright. With a few exceptions, most of the amps we play through were designed for Electric Bass so they could sell more units. We just occasionally get lucky and find ones that work great for both instruments i.e the old GK 200MB series. Acoustic Image, Euphonic Audio, and Walter Woods all make amps that are voiced for acoustic instruments. Both the Doubler and The Walter Woods MI series have a different EQ's on each channel to make it more complementary to a particular instrument.

    Ric
     
  8. biddypatrick

    biddypatrick

    May 4, 2007
    Portugal
    Ric...have you played through one of these bottom line series? I havn't found any info to convince me that a DB would sound good through it..but I am super curious...that's for sure.
     
  9. bolo

    bolo

    May 29, 2005
    Apex, NC
    If you haven't seen it yet ... The only post in this forum that I could (easily) find re: the Amp One (which I think is the same as the Bottom Line?) w/ db is this:

    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6455522&postcount=37

    They supposedly have one at Sound Pure in Durham. I was there last weekend recording a CD with the Heart of Carolina Jazz Orchestra (17-piece big band). I suppose I could go check it out, assuming it is in stock ...

    http://www.soundpure.com/p/aer-amp-one-bass-amplifier-combo/2422?gclid=CKTBsqD8waMCFUWC5Qod0XDcZw

    But at $2500 US for a 1x10 combo? Holy mackerel. Better sound like the voice of angels.
     
  10. biddypatrick

    biddypatrick

    May 4, 2007
    Portugal
    Hey thanks Bolo..yeah..I did read it, but I read it again. It's a great review...

    I think the USD price is alot more than over here in Europe which is where I am. The amp one is about the same price as the AI combo here...maybe even a little less..if you try it out..let us know..AER make such great amps..very consistant ..I'm talking about the smaller guitar ones..like I said, I use one for vocals and it's literally ..show up..put it on the floor and go...I actually used it tonight on a terrace ( large but with pretty mellow people) and all I needed to add was a bit of bass and a bit of volume..but for DB...well never have had the privellage to try one...
     
  11. bolo

    bolo

    May 29, 2005
    Apex, NC
    Yes I have not demo'd an AER rig. But as you said earlier they have always piqued my interest.

    That guy Chris in the NAMM 2010 AER video was the same guy that basically ran our recording session. What a cool place (Sound Pure that is).

    http://www.soundpure.com
    http://www.soundpurestudios.com/
     
  12. biddypatrick

    biddypatrick

    May 4, 2007
    Portugal
    Sounds good...if you are in Sound Pure again soon..give amp one a burl...I've just been looking at the AER catalogue and I don't know..I think I'm tricking myself into thinking it would be a great thing.. I'm in amp turmoil...!
     
  13. Norre

    Norre

    Jan 5, 2001
    Antwerp, Belgium
    I demoed the first version of the Basscube a looong time ago and I remember I was very impressed with the sound. I also remember they were heavy as hell. Sounded great in the shop, but I never used it in a band situation. I heared from a dealer there were some issues with it (getting too hot and shutting down I think). Never tried the 2nd, improved version.
    They are great amps, but somehow I think they are overpriced. They have all the bells and whistles you can hope for, yes, but so does the AI stuff at almost half the price. And tbh, the Ten2 or the Clarus+ and a Wizzy12 will sound also very good. Ofc, the grass is alway greener on the other side, and they are indeed great amps, but are they worth the extra $$ ? ... that you have to decide for yourself.
     
  14. biddypatrick

    biddypatrick

    May 4, 2007
    Portugal
    Yeah..the bass cube is waaay out of my price range and that's my whole point really...I want AER to make an amp that's for DB is lighter than the cube and a more realistic price range. Some guys pointed put the bottom line series AMP ONE...but not sure how it sounds with DB and there is only one review on here..
     
  15. Norre

    Norre

    Jan 5, 2001
    Antwerp, Belgium
    Like the Acoustic Image and Euphonic Audio stuff ? :D :bag:

    I haven't played nor heared it yet, so I can't comment on that. I know that AER says it was designed for electric bassguitar, so I doubt it will sound better than what is already available (AI, EA). However, that's just a wild guess. You have to play it to be 100% sure.
    There's a player here on TB (I think it was PeterPalmieri) that used a Glockenklang amp before he switched to the ultra-light DB amps and I think he liked it too (check the archives or drop him a pm).
     
  16. biddypatrick

    biddypatrick

    May 4, 2007
    Portugal
    He He...yep..I guess so..! If you'd had any experience with AER gear..you'd know why I feel like this...but for now, you are dead right..AI is the top choice.or wizzy 12...in the meanwhile, I'll start saving now for when AER finally bring out a DB combo that is more in line with AI or wizzy...
     
  17. Norre

    Norre

    Jan 5, 2001
    Antwerp, Belgium
    Yeah, me too. I'd really like to see them do it ... they have the know-how that's for sure. I think the biggest part of their customers are guitarist, so I don't know how high we bassplayers are on their priority-list :eyebrow:
     
  18. Ric Vice

    Ric Vice Supporting Member

    Jul 2, 2005
    Olivette, Missouri
    B Patrick,
    The only Aer amp that I've ever played through was one of the earlier guitar amplifiers that was similar to a Bass Cube, but it was quite impressive. It sounded very good, understand though, this was a very high end model not the bottom line series(budget line?) It's very rare to even see one of these amps in St. Louis.

    Ric
     
  19. biddypatrick

    biddypatrick

    May 4, 2007
    Portugal
    The only Aer amp that I've ever played through was one of the earlier guitar amplifiers that was similar to a Bass Cube

    Was that the compact 60 by any chance? How did a guitar amp handle the low end...?