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Agassi used crystal meth

#63
MakiSupaStar said:
Marijuana IS decriminalized. If you get caught with less than an ounce it is still a misdemeanor. In fact, small amount of possession is actually an infraction. Neither one of these are often enforced. Still with that said, and ounce is a huge amount be carrying around on person. You can't walk around with an open container of alcohol either.
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It's ( weed ) still criminal around here , subject to the law enforcements attitude of the day.

They will act like they have caught Pablo Escobar for a seed in your carpet.

Or

They will take it and say " I don't want to catch you again " and then probably drive around on patrol stoned out of their skull.

This has happened to friends of mine , one went to jail for seeds on the floor , like two or three. My brother was caught with a few Marley doobs and a small bag , they scolded him , took it and left.

When I still smoked I was pulled over once , they searched my car and I watched as the officer opened my console, grabbed a big bag of weed and other stuff in one swoop , looked around and put it back . He never saw it. I was freakin'!
 
#64
EricF said:
Sorry, but I don't want myself - or my children - subject to the paranoid, violent, schizo hell your 4-day meth binge turns into. Smoke as much pot as you can get your hands on, fine with me. Meth is a different - crazy, ugly, evil - animal. There's nothing "Darwin" about meth.
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Maybe I should've been more diplomatic and less knee-jerk and "bumper sticker."

the Legalize it/darwin bit is my quick, convenient short hand for the idea that people are entitled to do whatever it is they want to their own bodies. If that includes using amphetamines, fine. That's the standard libertarian argument, but you're right, libertarianism doesn't really cover speed-freaks...

Therefore, I think that the only sensible way to deal with all of these illicit substances is to regulate them, creating a known registry of users, and handling the problem--if there is one, that's substance specific--openly: As you said, smoke as much pot as you can get your hands on ('cause odds are you won't be able to do anything, let alone harm other people), but if you're having addiction issues with meth (or any of the pharmacy-style drugs) you shouldn't be left on your own.

Some clinics in GB are trying something like this:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/10/20/treating.with.heroin/index.html


Also, as far as I can tell meth abuse is a regional issue--we don't hear or see much of it on the East Coast, but when I was in the Midwest there were billboards, etc. all warning about the dangers (and the bad teeth...)
 
#66
EricF said:
Sorry, but I don't want myself - or my children - subject to the paranoid, violent, schizo hell your 4-day meth binge turns into. Smoke as much pot as you can get your hands on, fine with me. Meth is a different - crazy, ugly, evil - animal. There's nothing "Darwin" about meth.
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...and I don't want my kids exposed to the paranoid, violent, schizo hell your long term alcoholic provides - but that doesn't mean alcohol should be illegal.

...and I don't want my kids shot, but even though the second amendment increases the odds of that happening, I don't want guns made illegal.

Freedoms have costs. Our gun rights mean more accidental and intentional gun deaths. Our civil rights protections means more criminals get off on technicalities. Those freedoms are worth their costs.

Punish the behavior, not the drug.

Use meth and go on a violent rampage? Go to jail. Go on a violent rampage without meth? Go to jail.
 
#68
EricF said:
I have done it and quit. So has my wife. So have some other people I know. I do know someone who did it just once and never touched it again. Then again, this was nearly 15+ years ago, and as I understand it from other sources (TB'er jady being one), meth today is very different - much, much more dangerous - than it used to be. I also know many lives (wives, husbands, families, friends, etc.) that have been ruined by the evil that is meth. As I said before, I was lucky and realized what was happening before it was too late. Nothing about meth is worth gambling your life over.
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What I've heard indicates it's different, although I'm not 100% sure what that difference is for sure or the outcomes 15+ years ago. Maybe related or not, but perhaps drug culture has also evolved. Meth use is very uncommon among my friends, although I get to see a cross section of society through hospital work.

Without writing an essay, I think the long n' short of it is that currently, meth isn't your typical recreational activity. It seems to be the idea of hitting rock bottom (then REALLY hitting rock bottom) and may be combined with traditional recreational drug use is replaced with a much more serious addiction.

I didn't mean to come off as so black and white, but I'm just going with what I know personally. I'm sure it's quite possible to do it once and/or quit, but it's not something I see very often. I like to hope for the best, but I don't always see it. My friend that has been clean for about 2 years had previously emptied his wife's bank account a few times using. Her idea to move way the hell away from all of his bad influences seems to have paid off, but there have been no shortages of relapse. :(
 

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