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AI (Artificial Intelligence) Creators Club!
- Thread starter ThinCrappyTone2
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s-n-giggles sometimes. 
the link took me to a "404 not found" page.
sorry to hear that you're having issues with your playing --- but if it helps: welcome to talkbass!
I was trying a new audio sharing service since clyp.it doesn't seem to work for me any more. Here's another attempt.
Like all of my uses of AI, it tends to be about one in ten outputs - if I'm lucky - that I like. This is simple and repetitive, but I like it. Out of the ten tracks or so I made while trying to create something for this thread.
many cool bass lines are "simple and repetitive." i come from a jazz background where adherence to repetition isn't always a given, but 'simple' almost always works.
I just got into AI (Suno) 2 weeks ago. I'm hooked! Mainly because I have a notebook full of songs I wrote in the 70s and 80s while playing bass in a "garage" rock band in Athens Ga. I was never happy with the way my songs sounded with the band and would have loved to have had the AI tools to show the band how they could sound. Even some "throwaway" lyrics, at the back of my lyric notebook seem to come alive generated by AI. Here is a country song I wrote in '87. It generates a simple bass line, but it is country.
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no doubt, it sounds great!
so, break it down for me, if you would:
- you supplied ideas?
- you supplied some lyrics?
- you supplied some tune elements (changes and/or melody)?
- you gave guidance to the 'feeling tone' of the piece?
- you rode heard on the elements and what the final outcome became?
- you did none of the above and an AI machine just plopped that out after you fed it some quarters?
TIA, i'm curious about how others are using AI --- for anything, including the 'purity' of enjoyment (e.g., "it keeps me off the streets!"
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I had that song recorded years ago with a guitar and vocals on a portable cassette player, so I knew what I would like the melody to come close to sounding like. So on Suno I put in my lyrics with a song arrangement of basically verse, chorus, verse, chorus, break, chorus. I then supplied the style. Americana, and on some songs suggest ballad, moody, female, etc. I then run about half dozen attempts, or more. Sometimes I type in break, instrumental, fadeout, and the "dumber AI's" actually sing those words. Some turn out so "off" I delete at the 2nd measure, sometimes at the end of the song where the AI just abruptly ends. If that happens and I like the result, I will load it into Audacity and fade it out myself. But if I keep generating the songs enough times it will spit out something that sounds close to my original melody, but with really nice vocals, mix, and mastering.no doubt, it sounds great!
so, break it down for me, if you would:
- you supplied ideas?
- you supplied some lyrics?
- you supplied some tune elements (changes and/or melody)?
- you gave guidance to the 'feeling tone' of the piece?
- you rode heard on the elements and what the final outcome became?
- you did none of the above and an AI machine just plopped that out after you fed it some quarters?
TIA, i'm curious about how others are using AI --- for anything, including the 'purity' of enjoyment (e.g., "it keeps me off the streets!"
I am just on my first month, $10/mo. For that I get 2500 credits that uses about 50 credits per song generation. I need to start learning how to give it more detailed song arrangements like bridge, etc. and figure out how to tell it not to sing the word bridge. Probably a simple instruction I haven't learned yet being a beginner at AI.
Here is a song my band played back in the '80s. Thankfully AI's generation turned out sounding much different. I just entered lyrics and described that I wanted a rock power ballad
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pretty amazing! mixed and mastered, too. makes me wonder, "how do they do that?!"
but FWIW, i've been happy getting some pictures of monkeys!
thanks for the feedback.
Yes. All I gave it was lyrics and a style like a power rock ballad.
Another AI site I have found, and subscribed to, offers a song breakdown to stems I can then separate the vocals, guitars, and drums. Then I can turn down the bass on the guitar/bass stem and add my own bass lines. Haven't tried that yet. Could also add my own vocals with the help of autotune and might be able to make these AI songs more "my own". But the vocals Suno creates would be hard to pass on.
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AI Music Maker - Fadr
Fadr is a web platform for AI music tools. Use our AI-powered vocal remover, song splitter, key/tempo/chords detector, remix maker, mashup maker, DJ controller, and so much more. The best part - 95% of Fadr is free for unlimited use. Upload your favorite songs and turn them into something new...
fadr.com
Fadr's plus subscription is $100/yr. that allows downloads. They had a holiday special reduced to $35/yr. That is basically $3 a month! I jumped on it. Might still be going on.
* which is reverse engineering, and an infringement on the original copyright, but we'll use that data analysis to further train our A.I. without the consent, or expressed permission of the original artists - because hey, we have an idea, and that needs to be realised; no matter what we have to steal, no matter who we have to steamroller, no matter the long-term cultural, creative, or financial destruction it cause : we can make a buck from this.
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The technology is hugely impressive.
The corporate morality is deeply disturbing.
You hear people complaining that there's no money to be made playing bar gigs anymore, because too many bands were willing to play for cheap, or for free...
I totally get it as a useful tool at the song demoing stage, and as a springboard for developing new ideas - but unfortunately that isn't how it's going to be used in a professional / corporate context : it will be a soup to nuts solution for churning out focus group driven, algorithmic content, that is never influenced by an original creative, but is simply approved by a committee.
Epoch-alypse Now!
+1
I plan on using AI as a tool as you suggest (green text), while at the same time watching the music industry morph into the future of...music (red text).
i've put off posting an "AI-assisted" fun/funny gig report for several reasons (among them: my report takes place in cali --- lots of troubles there recently), but i made this for my bothers and sister in the glarry club, just for fun...thought i'd share here, too:
this segment went this way:
- image from nightcafe - Invalid Link Removed
- my bass replacing the nightcafe bass = photoshop
- animation = Runway
i've developed a prompt that gets me the same monkey on any of the platforms i'm using, but i have a lot of credit/points at night cafe right now so i'm currently using those monkeys.
my prompt for the animator/video generator is simple (it taught me how to dumb down): "only the monkey's hands move as he expertly and effortlessly plays the instrument" --- and then AI can't help itself from making its movements, anyway...
i've learned to how to get 5-10 seconds of good monkey business just from not expecting too much! that, and the fact that it's easier to get a good monkey bit than to try for human bits...i.e., e.g., who cares if a monkey has six fingers?!
edit: original nightcafe image, and then my photoshopped image:
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i've developed a prompt that gets me the same monkey on any of the platforms i'm using, but i have a lot of credit/points at night cafe right now so i'm currently using those monkeys.
my prompt for the animator/video generator is simple (it taught me how to dumb down): "only the monkey's hands move as he expertly and effortlessly plays the instrument" --- and then AI can't help itself from making its movements, anyway...
i've learned to how to get 5-10 seconds of good monkey business just from not expecting too much! that, and the fact that it's easier to get a good monkey bit than to try for human bits...i.e., e.g., who cares if a monkey has six fingers?!
Put like that, it's clear to me that using generative A.I. is actually no different than directing a medium, to large scale film crew : your basically feeding them prompts, and refining the prompts based on correcting the failed attempts.
I'm paraphrasing, but David Fincher used an analogy along the lines of trying to paint on a canvas with a megaphone, and a long stick "...more green in that corner. No, the other corner".
Suno.com just made some music for me. The music is nothing to write home about, but I like the image it came up with.
AI script = Notebook LM
AI VO = Eleven Labs
AI Video = Runway and Pika
AI VO = Eleven Labs
AI Video = Runway and Pika
I guess a T-rex would have to play bass like an 80's showboat, with high on their chest, noodling up the dusty end.
