Anyone knows what type of amp is used in this song?
Now that's my favorite bass tone
Now that's my favorite bass tone
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Alice in Chains - Would bass tone
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That tone is classic Spector more than anything. I don't think the amp matters nearly as much as having an all maple Spector. My 83 with the hazlab is exactly that tone.
Would was done by Mike Starr, wasn't it? Don't know much about what he used but I know that it is a great tone and a great song. I think that was Alice in Chains best song.
"Would" was done by Mike Starr, and his main bass I believe was a Spector NS-2. Classic Spector tone.
Tnks guys !
I have a Warwick Streamer LX5, Ampeg SVT II, Ampeg 810E but is difficult for me to get that tone. Can you suggest some settings to get that tone?
I have a Warwick Streamer LX5, Ampeg SVT II, Ampeg 810E but is difficult for me to get that tone. Can you suggest some settings to get that tone?
Anyone knows what type of amp is used in this song?
Now that's my favorite bass tone
this is SO GOOD !!
Incredible as it's a different bass player and a different bass!
That's Mr Starr's replacement Mike Inez playing a Warwick Streamer. I think it's mostly the PJ pickup sound, drop tuning played with a pick, and a pushed amp.
It's almost there, the raw tone isn't quite as gritty as the Spector IMHO.
Am I missing something? Sure, it sounds good, but all I hear is a good picked bass with a little extra mid and a low dip in the eq. I don't hear any amp grit: I think it's just the way Starr use the pick, scraping the edge just a little bit to add some tooth to the note. Frankly, it sounds like it was recorded DI to me—no miked amp.
disclaimer: I LOVE this song, LOVE Starr and Inez, and I think AIC was the single most original, creative, and musical hard rock band of that entire era!
disclaimer: I LOVE this song, LOVE Starr and Inez, and I think AIC was the single most original, creative, and musical hard rock band of that entire era!
My band covers this song. My fav all time. I don't have much money so I really had to experiment to get close to this tone. I normally play a Ibanez SR485 5 stringer, but I decided to use my old cheap passive Ibanez GSR 200 bass with a PJ set up. Now here is what I do. (This is the poor man's way of doing it)
I run the GSR-200 into a digitech BP-50 pedal using the Ameg B15 module with the EQ set at treble 7, mid 4, bass 7. Amp gain in pedal set at 5, compression at 25. Then I run into a GK backline 200 using the clean channel into an old Fender 4x10 that has a raw sound. My amp settings are high mids set about 10, treble 9, low mids 4 and bass at about 7. Amp gain is around 4, volume is around 7.5 and the boost ( kinda a overdrive feature) is around 5.
Now with my Ampeg B100 I EQ it about the same but I use my DOD bass grunge pedal and slightly turn the all settings to 2 on the pedal. Except the Juice (gain) knob which goes to about 7.
Now on my bass I crank the P bass volume up all the way, and the J up about to 8, and the tone is at about 7.5. No numbers so these are rough estimates.
Now this is the only song I use a pick on. I found it better to use a stiff pick that can roll with the strings. To stiff and you will be fighting it up and down. I found the "cool " picks in the 1.00mm to be great for it. "Cool" is the brand of the pick. They cool lil grips on em.
Remember pick right above the J pup, and kinda at an angle. Hope this helps some!
I run the GSR-200 into a digitech BP-50 pedal using the Ameg B15 module with the EQ set at treble 7, mid 4, bass 7. Amp gain in pedal set at 5, compression at 25. Then I run into a GK backline 200 using the clean channel into an old Fender 4x10 that has a raw sound. My amp settings are high mids set about 10, treble 9, low mids 4 and bass at about 7. Amp gain is around 4, volume is around 7.5 and the boost ( kinda a overdrive feature) is around 5.
Now with my Ampeg B100 I EQ it about the same but I use my DOD bass grunge pedal and slightly turn the all settings to 2 on the pedal. Except the Juice (gain) knob which goes to about 7.
Now on my bass I crank the P bass volume up all the way, and the J up about to 8, and the tone is at about 7.5. No numbers so these are rough estimates.
Now this is the only song I use a pick on. I found it better to use a stiff pick that can roll with the strings. To stiff and you will be fighting it up and down. I found the "cool " picks in the 1.00mm to be great for it. "Cool" is the brand of the pick. They cool lil grips on em.
Remember pick right above the J pup, and kinda at an angle. Hope this helps some!
Not that I have any *proof*, but the rumor mill has always been saying that by the recording of "Dirt" that Mike Starr was almost as smacked-out as Lanye*, and that most if not all of the bass parts were recorded by Cantrell and producer Dave Jerden.
*Starr is supposed to be included in VH1's "Celebrity Rehab 3" if this counts for anything...
*Starr is supposed to be included in VH1's "Celebrity Rehab 3" if this counts for anything...
That is just a bad rumor, I have heard he was just as involved as any of them. In fact his way of playing the chorus parts to Man in the box and Would is even a little different than how Inez plays them.
I know that the acoustic version, but I have seen AIC with Inez. Though he is a great bassist he attacks it more fast yet not with enough grind. Starr IMO grooved it better with with a impressionable punch to it, that grooved.
Mike Inez in 2009 clearly playing a Spector.... Just to settle any discrepancies over Warwick versus Spector sound. Either will fly.
I agree.Both brands are excellent.
Mike was at this years Musikmesse & winter NAMM at the Warwick booth,endorsing them.
Mike is currently endorsed by Warwick and is playing a couple of Warwick Streamer Stage 4's and also from time to time a 5'er...
In the past he has played Fender P's, a Kubicki Factor, Spector's and a Gibson T-bird
he has been playing Ampeg for most of his career from what i can tell...In Ozzy and BLS he was using SVT's run bi-amped or stereo into 18's and 8x10's
new disc sounds great BTW
In the past he has played Fender P's, a Kubicki Factor, Spector's and a Gibson T-bird
he has been playing Ampeg for most of his career from what i can tell...In Ozzy and BLS he was using SVT's run bi-amped or stereo into 18's and 8x10's
new disc sounds great BTW
Aha! I accidentally found out that the bass track is doubled by an acoustic-electric bass, confirming a rumor I heard.
Take the song in to audacity, and do this procedure (often used to remove vocals but doesn't work 100% of the time. I didn't make this up):
1. Next to the blue waveform of the track, you will see a bar with the name of the song with a downward arrow next to it. Click that, and on the drop down menu, select Split Stereo Track.
2. Now you will have two tracks. On each of them, go under that same drop down bar and select Mono.
3. Click on the Right channel track (the track on the bottom) and the window behind the waveform will turn dark gray. Then go under effects and choose Invert. Now listen to the intro.
POOF! The electric bass track has suddenly become nearly silent! What's left underneath is what sounds like a chorused acoustic-electric bass doubling the riff! Very neat trick, but unpredictable. (as I said this was an accident, I wasn't intending to find this bass track, I was just experimenting)
I tried the same thing with Rain When I Die, which has a short bass intro with a significantly "colder" bass sound, and sure enough, the bass intro lacks any second bass. That dubbed track on Would? probably adds a bit to the warmth and thickness.
For the lazies, this is what it sounds like. If you are not convinced, go ahead and try this for yourself.
Take the song in to audacity, and do this procedure (often used to remove vocals but doesn't work 100% of the time. I didn't make this up):
1. Next to the blue waveform of the track, you will see a bar with the name of the song with a downward arrow next to it. Click that, and on the drop down menu, select Split Stereo Track.
2. Now you will have two tracks. On each of them, go under that same drop down bar and select Mono.
3. Click on the Right channel track (the track on the bottom) and the window behind the waveform will turn dark gray. Then go under effects and choose Invert. Now listen to the intro.
POOF! The electric bass track has suddenly become nearly silent! What's left underneath is what sounds like a chorused acoustic-electric bass doubling the riff! Very neat trick, but unpredictable. (as I said this was an accident, I wasn't intending to find this bass track, I was just experimenting)
I tried the same thing with Rain When I Die, which has a short bass intro with a significantly "colder" bass sound, and sure enough, the bass intro lacks any second bass. That dubbed track on Would? probably adds a bit to the warmth and thickness.
For the lazies, this is what it sounds like. If you are not convinced, go ahead and try this for yourself.
