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All Things Must Beat. Share Anything Beatles!!
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The bass line for I Saw Her Standing There was inspired by “I’m Talking about You” by Chuck Berry (1961). Paul said in an interview that he played the same notes as Chuck Berry did and maintained that a bass riff doesn’t have to be original.
"Inspired" by? "Sampled?" How about ouright stolen?
Invalid Link Removed, “Here’s one example of a bit I pinched from someone: I used the bass riff from “Talkin’ About You” by Chuck Berry in “I Saw Her Standing There”. I played exactly the same notes as he did and it fitted our number perfectly. Even now, when I tell people, I find few of them believe me; therefore, I maintain that a bass riff hasn’t got to be original.”
.It would be enlightening to know the legal basis for your assertion, if you have any. Or is it a moral reflection? For me It is evident from the text quoted that Paul gave due moral credit to Chuck Berry for that line. So in this case I don´t see an act of plagiarism but a form of flattery and recognition on the part of Paul, in the understanding that licks were part of the public domain. I respect your position, but beg to differ.
I wasn’t actually aware of that. Thanks for sharing.
We all owe to Chuck Berry. Everybody used -or still use- the sliding ninth chord lick, descending double stops, imitation bottleneck lick, tasty fills, etc that were his trademarks. He had a strong influence on many guitar players, as Willie Dixon influenced bassists throughout the world. The Stones and The Beatles covered Chuck Berry and, if IIRC, the Beatles also took the idea of Back in the USA to write Back in the USSR.
NASA put a recording of Johnny B. Goode in a space capsule as an example of American Pop music, so even aliens might be using his licks!
Sorry, but I have no enlightenment for you. Just observation.
How can John be convicted of plagiarism over just one similar, though arguably not verbatim, unrepeated vocal phrase in two very dissimilar songs of many, many other descriptive, or otherwise, phrases? And poor George likewise nailed for plagiarizing the chord pattern that appears in hundreds, if not thousands, of songs just 'cause the owner of one of them saw some deep pockets to get into. Yet Paul admits playing the exact same notes of an entire song, by John's hero and nemesis no less(!), and that's OK? But, I wonder at what point in history Paul started revealing that form of flattery and recognition?
Not really a moral to these stories but it appears that, like beauty in the eye, musical plagiarism is in the ear, of the beholder.
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I have a big box set of Mr. Berrys songs. It’s amazing how many songs he wrote. It’s been said that he could sit down and crank out a new song on the spot. He clearly had a gift.
The Beatles reinvigorated his career. He made a lot of money because of them. John ripped him off in Come Together. Chuck’s publishing company sued and they settled. Lennon had to record three songs, the publishing company would get royalties.
The Beatles' 'Come Together' Was Stolen from a Chuck Berry Song
But the Beatles used a lot of other people’s songs for inspiration in the early days. They studied obscure and not so obscure rock’n’roll songs like scholars. It was common for bands to borrow. The Beatles were masters at taking bits from others and making them their own. Both Paul and John admitted to doing it. They’d start with a song and morph it into their own.
Beatles’ 5 Boldest Rip-Offs – Rolling Stone
I believe that the intro to I’ve Got a Feeling is a slower twist of Elvis’ Suspicious Minds.
The Beatles reinvigorated his career. He made a lot of money because of them. John ripped him off in Come Together. Chuck’s publishing company sued and they settled. Lennon had to record three songs, the publishing company would get royalties.
The Beatles' 'Come Together' Was Stolen from a Chuck Berry Song
But the Beatles used a lot of other people’s songs for inspiration in the early days. They studied obscure and not so obscure rock’n’roll songs like scholars. It was common for bands to borrow. The Beatles were masters at taking bits from others and making them their own. Both Paul and John admitted to doing it. They’d start with a song and morph it into their own.
Beatles’ 5 Boldest Rip-Offs – Rolling Stone
I believe that the intro to I’ve Got a Feeling is a slower twist of Elvis’ Suspicious Minds.
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After (February 1968 in Rishikesh, India), arriving with high hopes for their new self-managed Apple Corps venture and expectations of finding the meaning of life. Leaving in disappointment over the Maharishi.
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Before (August 1967 in Bangor, Wales), arriving after quitting drugs, with generally high hopes and great expectations. Leaving morning the loss of Brian Epstein.
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The Beatles Museum in Alkmaar Netherlands was really worthwhile and had some interesting items such as this merch.
The newest mix..some quite different.
Hear the Beatles Work Out ‘Tomorrow Never Knows’ on First ‘Revolver’ Take – Rolling Stone
Hear the Beatles Work Out ‘Tomorrow Never Knows’ on First ‘Revolver’ Take – Rolling Stone
