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Am I racist?

Well here's a follow up to this story. Not sure what kind of dialogue went down at home, but I can tell that someone was compelling the girl. She came up to me and apologized to me for calling me a racist. So something happened at home (which makes sense since there's a call home when a child is ejected from class). Still, I really have no concern about being called a racist, like I said, it happens to me quite a lot in my profession as 7th and 8th graders try out their arguing skills against me, but I have never been called one in this context before so it just gave me a little pause.

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Well here's a follow up to this story. Not sure what kind of dialogue went down at home, but I can tell that someone was compelling the girl. She came up to me and apologized to me for calling me a racist. So something happened at home (which makes sense since there's a call home when a child is ejected from class). Still, I really have no concern about being called a racist, like I said, it happens to me quite a lot in my profession as 7th and 8th graders try out their arguing skills against me, but I have never been called one in this context before so it just gave me a little pause.

Glad that someone at home had a discussion about it. I think the 'that's racist' thing is just pop-culture at the moment. I hear students tell each other it about 5-10 times a week in class.
 
The only racist here is your student. Racism is any reference to rac e. so when she brought it up, she was the one being racist. if anything at worse you may be a linguistist(like racist but for language). Racism is both negative and positive reference to race. so if someone says hey that black guy guy is a really good person, that chinese chick is hot, or anyone says 'nigga, spic or Latina' (black, white or otherwise) all are being racist. In fact the fact we're having this conversation is technically racist.
 
yeah, this is gonna get old fast, but i really dig irony. if we are going to be prescriptive about language usage, i humbly suggest following the prescribed rules!

However, there is only one English and, when it's taught correctly, it needs to be learned correctly.

I agree, however, I speak in the dialect I'm raised in.

"...in which i am raised." i think you may need a refresher course. ;)

And the poor grammar displayed by so many in this thread, particularly those who complain about it, is a nice bonus. The laziness as far as proofreading too.

yes, i am appreciating the bonus as well. could you point out the verb in your last "sentence?" :D
 
LOL at this thread! The usage of "axe" makes me cringe and gives me a sudden urge to reach for a ruler and pop the speaker. :p

It irritates me when bad language, usage and/or grammar is likened to being "a Black thing" and thereby deserving of a pass. No offense intended, but where I'm from, using "axe" for "ask" is a sign of either ignorance or a speech impediment.

Nice to see that the parents put her in check. It's not too far-fetched to imagine her popping off at the wrong person at the wrong time and ending up in handcuffs.

Next cringe-worthy word ... "hisself" used in place of "himself". Arrrgggghhhh!!!!!
 
The only racist here is your student. Racism is any reference to rac e. so when she brought it up, she was the one being racist. if anything at worse you may be a linguistist(like racist but for language). Racism is both negative and positive reference to race. so if someone says hey that black guy guy is a really good person, that chinese chick is hot, or anyone says 'nigga, spic or Latina' (black, white or otherwise) all are being racist. In fact the fact we're having this conversation is technically racist.

Not only is this incorrect, it is also inappropriate for talkbass
 
The only racist here is your student. Racism is any reference to rac e. so when she brought it up, she was the one being racist. if anything at worse you may be a linguistist(like racist but for language). Racism is both negative and positive reference to race. so if someone says hey that black guy guy is a really good person, that chinese chick is hot, or anyone says 'nigga, spic or Latina' (black, white or otherwise) all are being racist. In fact the fact we're having this conversation is technically racist.



None of this makes any one a racist.






Maki sometimes I've had to check my youngest daughter(she'll be 18 in a few weeks) on how she uses and pronounce some of her words.

I guess I'm a racist as well.
 
To the OP - no, I don't believe you were being racist, glad to see the situation has been resolved!

In Scotland we don't have a large number of black people ,but I did work alongside a Kenyan guy about 17 years ago and he did say 'axe' instead of ask. However, he was the only person in the factory (of about 2,500 people) that said that. English wasn't his first language either, so I never felt the need to correct him.

Ironically, I had only moved about 40 miles from where I was raised and could barely understand the particular dialect of the 'local Scots' at times - in general he was more articulate than most of them......
 
yeah, this is gonna get old fast, but i really dig irony. if we are going to be prescriptive about language usage, i humbly suggest following the prescribed rules!





"...in which i am raised." i think you may need a refresher course. ;)



yes, i am appreciating the bonus as well. could you point out the verb in your last "sentence?" :D

It's inferred. I can explain if need be. And you can point out the capital letters in yours, mr. cummings.
:D
 
Well here's a follow up to this story. Not sure what kind of dialogue went down at home, but I can tell that someone was compelling the girl. She came up to me and apologized to me for calling me a racist. So something happened at home (which makes sense since there's a call home when a child is ejected from class). Still, I really have no concern about being called a racist, like I said, it happens to me quite a lot in my profession as 7th and 8th graders try out their arguing skills against me, but I have never been called one in this context before so it just gave me a little pause.

the fact that it gave you pause to re-evaluate yourself proves that you're the furthest thing from a racist. it means that you are very open minded (sp?), and as such, cannot be a racist. I too, would be quite pleased to have you as my child's teacher.
 
the fact that it gave you pause to re-evaluate yourself proves that you're the furthest thing from a racist. it means that you are very open minded (sp?), and as such, cannot be a racist. I too, would be quite pleased to have you as my child's teacher.

^this.

Anyone that thinks you're racist, Daren, is either racist themselves or a functional idiot.

:hmm:

Glad that it all ended up OK.
 
A.Diva said:
LOL at this thread! The usage of "axe" makes me cringe and gives me a sudden urge to reach for a ruler and pop the speaker. :p

It irritates me when bad language, usage and/or grammar is likened to being "a Black thing" and thereby deserving of a pass. No offense intended, but where I'm from, using "axe" for "ask" is a sign of either ignorance or a speech impediment.

Nice to see that the parents put her in check. It's not too far-fetched to imagine her popping off at the wrong person at the wrong time and ending up in handcuffs.

Next cringe-worthy word ... "hisself" used in place of "himself". Arrrgggghhhh!!!!!

Lol. Yeah I hear that too. Another one I get 'I seen it just now' or 'I seen it on tv'. I correct my students on that one too. It's not exclusive to any one ethnic group either. Most of my students do this. Again, I pick my battles. I only have so much energy and time in the day.
 
oooh, "i seen it" gets to me. there is another one that i can't think of rite now that also bugs me.

but i am now wondering, why? why does certain slang bug us while other "proper" language abuses pass freely by? it seems arbitrary to me. different times or places maybe? however, if it were possible to draw a racist (or more accurately classist) conclusion from these situations, i think it might be in the why we get bugged.

i remember an i love lucy scene where lucy is getting tutored in proper english. the tutor explains that "swell" and "lousy" are completely inappropriate. of course, lucy then says: that would sure be a swell way to get off to a lousy start! (cue: laugh track).

these days, i don't think anyone would bat an eye at swell or lousy.