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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

#5,101
monsterthompson said:
It is another way to view a sequence. The big difference is that you have vertical columns representing each track, instead of horizontal piano-roll rows. Imagine it like a Guitar Hero or Dance Dance Revolution screen. Each column on this device has 4 sections (sub columns) that control various parameters.

It looks to have multi midi you are looking for, if I'm understanding your question and the video. Around the 40 minute mark he explains the 5 midi channels you can send external CC on.

Jump into the video and check the time markers for the issues you have the most interest in. Loopop is pretty good about his video bookmarks. Check the pros/cons at the end for a quick summary.

In some ways it looks like a lot of fun, and has some live performance applications that are interesting. There's also a few mentions of "wish list" items for the firmware, which Polyend will likely follow through on, knowing them.
I've got to watch it again to get my head around how I'd use it.
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Watching a 1 hour tutorial 2ice.....I simply don’t have the willpower\patience for that. A wall would go down somewhere ;)
Kudos to you buddy.
 
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#5,103
ugly_bassplayer said:
Watching a 1 hour tutorial 2ice.....I simply don’t have the willpower\patience for that. A wall would go down somewhere ;)
Kudos to you buddy.
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I don’t think this is beyond you by any stretch! I looks like a ton of info, but that’s just because a tracker shows you everything at once. It is advantageous in many ways, just deal one row at a time!
 
#5,104
dukeorock said:
I don’t think this is beyond you by any stretch! I looks like a ton of info, but that’s just because a tracker shows you everything at once. It is advantageous in many ways, just deal one row at a time!
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Yeah, saw that....maybe it’s not to bad once you get the hang of it.

Side note:
My new best friend currently is my Tascam DR40 4 track recorder. It is $%^& awesome and so easy to use. I’ve had it a while but never really used it as an everyday tool.

-Bass idea, plug in done.
-Plug on L-R of any mixer record away
-Live drum ruff tracks use two mic’s for kick and snare and the 2 integrated ones as overheads.
-Perfect for going sample hunting. The on-board mics are really not that bad. If you need something better carry a good old 57 around. Even better bring 2x57!!
(Its all I have as a mic closet, the rest where sold a long time ago....)
-All files are drag n drop with USB connection and takes about 2 secs flat to transfer.
-You can even overdub tracks.
-I really love the -xdB option. This automatically records a second track set -xdB as a backup if the first one clips. I usually set it at -12dB.

I found a workflow that is fast and efficient with this thing. I guess that’s the most important thing, less time fiddling with gear more time creating.

Ok....enough....I sound like a used car salesmen.....puke.
 
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#5,105
lordradish said:
I know I keep mentioning this, but we really gotta get this Jamkazam thing up and running and start having sanity-inducing jam sessions online. I just keep putting it off, but hopefully not much longer. We could have a noise jam session, a super ambient session, a downtempo psy session. Lots of stuff. Then make an album of it and try to sell it on TBL to perhaps raise some money to help people hurt by the crisis.
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I've never used Jamkazam - looks interesting!

Another thing that could be done is to collaborate on a recording - either one person make something and then the next people overdub, or each person do a shorter segment, next person overlap but go longer, next person go overlap over the second thing, etc. A long time ago there was a thread on TB and they called it the "Spittoon" - each person did a 4-8 bar sketch, there was no overlap, but I think overlap would be more interesting, if not an entire track. There have to be some rules - if one person calls a track, then everyone wait until they're finished. It requires that you work relatively quickly to keep the momentum going - we tried it on a different forum and it died with like the 2nd or 3rd person!
 
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hieronymous said:
I've never used Jamkazam - looks interesting!

Another thing that could be done is to collaborate on a recording - either one person make something and then the next people overdub, or each person do a shorter segment, next person overlap but go longer, next person go overlap over the second thing, etc. A long time ago there was a thread on TB and they called it the "Spittoon" - each person did a 4-8 bar sketch, there was no overlap, but I think overlap would be more interesting, if not an entire track. There have to be some rules - if one person calls a track, then everyone wait until they're finished. It requires that you work relatively quickly to keep the momentum going - we tried it on a different forum and it died with like the 2nd or 3rd person!
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Well, I just spent the last hour doing something like that with @ugly_bassplayer , but he doesn't know it, yet. Stay tuned.
 
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monsterthompson said:
It is another way to view a sequence. The big difference is that you have vertical columns representing each track, instead of horizontal piano-roll rows. Imagine it like a Guitar Hero or Dance Dance Revolution screen. Each column on this device has 4 sections (sub columns) that control various parameters.

It looks to have multi midi you are looking for, if I'm understanding your question and the video. Around the 40 minute mark he explains the 5 midi channels you can send external CC on.

Jump into the video and check the time markers for the issues you have the most interest in. Loopop is pretty good about his video bookmarks. Check the pros/cons at the end for a quick summary.

In some ways it looks like a lot of fun, and has some live performance applications that are interesting. There's also a few mentions of "wish list" items for the firmware, which Polyend will likely follow through on, knowing them.
I've got to watch it again to get my head around how I'd use it.
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Excellent, thank you.
 
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#5,112
lordradish said:
Awrighty, the first pandemic collaboration from the TB ambo's.

That's @ugly_bassplayer on the crackle drone (specs forthcoming), then it's me on the creepy voices (Mysteria, in Kontakt) and fretless with ebow through the board.
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This put a smile on my face and I had a blast doing this....ok. specs and process

I used a 6 voice JMT analog drone synth.
Tuned the 6 voices with a pedal tuner in order to have the exact pitch and voicing of the drone chord.

Then bounced into ableton to add double vinyl sims and a dash of reverb. Then added a soft synth sub bass root note for the bottom.

The warble is a natural effect of the oscillators of the drone synth.

Awesome job @lordradish !!!
 
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lordradish said:
Awrighty, the first pandemic collaboration from the TB ambiweirdness club.

That's @ugly_bassplayer on the crackle drone (specs forthcoming), then it's me on the creepy voices (Mysteria, in Kontakt) and fretless with ebow through the board.
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Very cool. Thanks for sharing!
 
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2many said:
OK, I got some stuff ready to throw out there...
Since yesterday, I've thought and considered many aspects of what I would say here on this post... but I don't want to go too deep. (I'm so old school, low tech, low budget...)
This thread is intriguing, yet over my head regarding much of what can be done, some are doing. Yet, I am into sounds and creation. I'll just go as far as to describe a bit about some tracks I've chosen to share.
Take it from there.
Just be advised that I have posted these as unedited passages. It is all live un-rehearsed spur of the moment stuff. Ya might have to give it a second, or forgive a missed note.

This track was the one I was thinking of last night when I first decided to go back into the archives and throw up "ambient" sounds I'd done long ago. But when I revisited it, I found it had too much structure. I remember musician friends of mine calling out, "NO STRUCTURE"! with regards to jamming sessions my other buddies and I were involved in. In a way what we did was because we were in a new age, but also held back by capabilities. This was way before I ever had a bass guitar. And indeed, I'd never mastered the saxophone either, so sounds was the order of the day... I did have a delay and chorus though, and that's what is making theme from a dark alley fit the ambient classification.

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And from another live two track recording of that year, I submit walking the dog in space and hooking up with the garbage chute. Let your mind go ... use your imagination ... I believe this is the true ambient piece out of the three posted today. I had the great fortune to be gifted the use of a moog for a period of time.

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And finally, from 1 1/2 years later, a jam session which basically features a mic rubbing the upholstery of a chair's fabric. 1986 live two track recording with a cello, two cheesy keyboards, and my sax rig of delay and chorus. (yet no sax)
I am including the whole thing here... IE, from the very start! You hear the cello gal laugh at the sound I was getting and the remainder kind of fall into it all. There is a bit of "tapping" I got into doing early in, but I left it... It moves on from that, get over it. This one has it's own atmosphere to it.

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Some fun stuff in there.I liked the "garbage chute" track.
 
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