Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

[monsterthompson]

PHRASING!

Said Ripley to the android, Bishop.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

Said Ripley to the android, Bishop.

 

[monsterthompson]

Progressing slowly but surely. Getting a good sound blend between the Medusa and the PO32. Bringing in some Zoia effects on this too. It’s quite convenient to think “it’d be nice to have X effect in the chain” and then just dial it in. No cables to reroute. Boom. Done.

Now to start charting the songs and mapping out the sound design. Actually, I’ve got 2 of the 3 songs charted already, so the hard part will be sequencing the drum patterns. Okay, the hard part will be not buying the new Erica Synth stuff or the Polyend Tracker

 

[theunknowndude]

NIN Released ghosts v and vi recently... ambient goodness

didn’t like every track of I to IV but some good loops / ambient bits... and the occasion noise bits and pieces

 

[HotelX]

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

Ok, this 16 step CV seems really awesome......

Thank you CAD for being tanked, comes to about 2352346457$ Canadian.

 

[HotelX]

Products | Handmade Electronic Instruments

All sorts of interesting stuff there and relatively inexpensive

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

Products | Handmade Electronic Instruments

All sorts of interesting stuff there and relatively inexpensive

Yep. That's Rucci's homepage of stuff he makes.

Very cool guy also.

 

[monsterthompson]

Boredbrain crew killing it.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

Boredbrain crew killing it.

That's a $h!tload of cables.

 

[monsterthompson]

That's a $h!tload of cables.

That’s how you know it sounds good.

I’m trying to work out three songs with a minimal, punk, no computer ethos and it’s so hard not to hind behind layers and tricks. How minimal is too minimal? How much is too much?

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

That’s how you know it sounds good.

I’m trying to work out three songs with a minimal, punk, no computer ethos and it’s so hard not to hind behind layers and tricks. How minimal is too minimal? How much is too much?

I say use whatever works for you. To me there is no "cheating". (Cough cough studio magic punch ins ....auto tune cough cough)
But sometimes in my case limitations are beneficial to the creative process.

I'd love to be an sp404 ninja and do everything in the box but I need a crap load more practice for that. Or another sampler to bounce back and forth with the sp...?!?!??!

 

[monsterthompson]

I say use whatever works for you. To me there is no "cheating". (Cough cough studio magic punch ins ....auto tune cough cough)
But sometimes in my case limitations are beneficial to the creative process.

I'd love to be an sp404 ninja and do everything in the box but I need a crap load more practice for that.

I’m certainly gonna cave to comfort at some point, but I want to “learn” my way through some limitations first. I’ve done that before and it’s opened my eyes to why some shortcuts exist. Oh. The whole reason you want to key-track a filter is because if you don’t then the filter setting limits your note selection. Oh.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

I’m certainly gonna cave to comfort at some point, but I want to “learn” my way through some limitations first. I’ve done that before and it’s opened my eyes to why some shortcuts exist. Oh. The whole reason you want to key-track a filter is because if you don’t then the filter setting limits your note selection. Oh.

Try cross fading by ear.

 

[monsterthompson]

Try cross fading by ear.

Pretty sure that slider was designed for fingers, but okay.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

Pretty sure that slider was designed for fingers, but okay.

 

[lordradish]

I’m certainly gonna cave to comfort at some point, but I want to “learn” my way through some limitations first. I’ve done that before and it’s opened my eyes to why some shortcuts exist. Oh. The whole reason you want to key-track a filter is because if you don’t then the filter setting limits your note selection. Oh.

The thing that's prompted me to try to use the computer less, simply, is the fact that I'm starting to play my synth stuff in live settings, now, in front of other living, breathing meatbags, and I absolutely hate futzing around with a computer on stage, just as much as I hate watching someone do that. A lot of artists I like, such as Carbon Based Lifeforms or Lustmord, I'd never waste time going to see live, because the idea of just watching someone on stage playing with a laptop, well, just doesn't cut it for me. I'll just listen to the recordings.

I still take a multi-pronged approach. A lot of my sounds are really dense and complicated, and the soft synths really excel at that (well, until that Korg Wavestate finally gets here), and I still compose that way. When I sit to write, if I'm doing something I definitely want to do live, I'll just use the DAW for recording. If I'm going more for album stuff that I probably won't perform live, I go all in with every available tool. A middle ground I've been using is the iPad, there's some amazing stuff on the iPad that does rival some softsynth sounds, and it doesn't take up the real estate a PC does, either physically or mentally. And the last thing that happens, that's forcing me to be creative, is, sometimes, I write one of my computer compositions, but I really do want to play it live, so what I do is sample what I can from it that still works and put it into the AKAI, or, when possible, try to find sounds on my hardware synths that might come close to what I used on the VSTi's.

All of which is an entirely different world than showing up and playing a bassline in a band. But I love it, regardless.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

The thing that's prompted me to try to use the computer less, simply, is the fact that I'm starting to play my synth stuff in live settings, now, in front of other living, breathing meatbags, and I absolutely hate futzing around with a computer on stage, just as much as I hate watching someone do that. A lot of artists I like, such as Carbon Based Lifeforms or Lustmord, I'd never waste time going to see live, because the idea of just watching someone on stage playing with a laptop, well, just doesn't cut it for me. I'll just listen to the recordings.

I still take a multi-pronged approach. A lot of my sounds are really dense and complicated, and the soft synths really excel at that (well, until that Korg Wavestate finally gets here), and I still compose that way. When I sit to write, if I'm doing something I definitely want to do live, I'll just use the DAW for recording. If I'm going more for album stuff that I probably won't perform live, I go all in with every available tool. A middle ground I've been using is the iPad, there's some amazing stuff on the iPad that does rival some softsynth sounds, and it doesn't take up the real estate a PC does, either physically or mentally. And the last thing that happens, that's forcing me to be creative, is, sometimes, I write one of my computer compositions, but I really do want to play it live, so what I do is sample what I can from it that still works and put it into the AKAI, or, when possible, try to find sounds on my hardware synths that might come close to what I used on the VSTi's.

All of which is an entirely different world than showing up and playing a bassline in a band. But I love it, regardless.

100% agreed on laptop live.

I saw Buck 65 a few yeats ago and its well known that he's a hip hop triple threat.

Emcee, DJ and beatmaker.

He kills it on the wheels of steel.

Live, he played with itunes. I was beyond peeved.

Haven't listened to him since.

 

[lordradish]

100% agreed on laptop live.

I saw Buck 65 a few yeats ago and its well known that he's a hip hop triple threat.

Emcee, DJ and beatmaker.

He kills it on the wheels of steel.

Live, he played with itunes. I was beyond peeved.

Haven't listened to him since.

I do wonder if our attitude, in part, may stem from the fact that we started off (and, from what I can tell, still) play actual instruments that have to be learned with a variety of techniques and methods - they require a lot more physical interaction than just triggering clips. I'm not dissing that music - like I said, I love a lot of it, and a lot of talent and creativity goes into it - I just have no interest in 'watching' any of it. When I see a band, I'm watching everything, as well as listening - it immerses me in the performance. I simply can't get that from guy-or-gal-on-a-laptop, even if the music itself is good.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

I do wonder if our attitude, in part, may stem from the fact that we started off (and, from what I can tell, still) play actual instruments that have to be learned with a variety of techniques and methods - they require a lot more physical interaction than just triggering clips. I'm not dissing that music - like I said, I love a lot of it, and a lot of talent and creativity goes into it - I just have no interest in 'watching' any of it. When I see a band, I'm watching everything, as well as listening - it immerses me in the performance. I simply can't get that from guy-or-gal-on-a-laptop, even if the music itself is good.

I wanna see and hear human meat bags live.

I've got the record at home for the playback stuff.

I'm hip hop maniac but hate shows with the emcee and an iPod. Yes....it has happened.....and I walked out.

Public Enemy 25th anniversary show of the album "it takes a nation of millions" with full live band.....
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They MURDERED it for over 2h30!!!!!