thank ya. Was a lot of fun. He sends me stuff, and I don't leave the studio until it's finished.
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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread
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I liked that a lot. Listened to the entire thing at a time when my attention span is all over the place
Yeah, this kind of stuff works for when we're all mentally scattered like I suspect most of us are, right now. Thanks.
Yeah, that came outa nowhere. I was messing around with random combinations of pedals, next thing you know, there's this awesome church organ drone sound. I was so psyched. Thanks.
And, like clockwork, within minutes, the souncloud fake promoter people are all over it. "Great track, dude! Submit it here for promo!" Piss off!
They gotta lock that stuff down, it's getting so tiresome.
They gotta lock that stuff down, it's getting so tiresome.
Anyone use a small personal monitor or amp for tabletop jamming? I like to wire up a board and bug out but it’s annoying to have to run it through my rig and with the current situation, change of scenery (in my home) is nice, plus I don’t want to power up the whole shabiggle if I only want to use a few pedals. I have a Phil Jones briefcase which does a good job but I am wondering if there might be something even smaller and more portable thatI can put in a counter or table if I am screwing around w a few pedals. I’m open to recommendations...I would also be interested to hear about everyone’s home setups now that we are home for the foreseeable future.
I have used a Blackbird Fly when traveling light.
Yeah, that gets old, along with their upload limit. YouTube has no limit and I never get spam there. Only downside there is I feel like I have to make an actual video.
My home setup is such:
Two focusrite 8 channel preamps/daw interface handles all the synths, as well as the stereo pedalboard. That goes into two Qsc k8.2's (2000 watts each) and an EV sub (1000 watts, if I remember correctly). And it all sounds awesome. at any volume.
Home rig is a Mackie Mix 8 into my new Adam A7X pair.
Pedals and synths as they fit on my desk.
You guys got me thinking ambient tonight and a arranged my board so the Empress Echo and Reverb pedals are on the ground now, and routed from/to the Mackie Aux/FX. I started running a few things through it to test and ended up going weird and spacey with my PO32 and the Echo, using the pedals Looper function. I ended up wandering way off of my plan for the evening.
Though, part of the plan was to attempt rigging the Zoia so it has a wet reverb signal going into a germ distortion then mixed back in with the dry. It’s a hacked fake of similar pedals. The results weren’t awful. Adding some LFO modulation to a filter on the reverb, along with a modulated panning effect on the stereo out created some decent results.
Pedals and synths as they fit on my desk.
You guys got me thinking ambient tonight and a arranged my board so the Empress Echo and Reverb pedals are on the ground now, and routed from/to the Mackie Aux/FX. I started running a few things through it to test and ended up going weird and spacey with my PO32 and the Echo, using the pedals Looper function. I ended up wandering way off of my plan for the evening.
Though, part of the plan was to attempt rigging the Zoia so it has a wet reverb signal going into a germ distortion then mixed back in with the dry. It’s a hacked fake of similar pedals. The results weren’t awful. Adding some LFO modulation to a filter on the reverb, along with a modulated panning effect on the stereo out created some decent results.
About 6 months ago I stuck this mini rig on top of my desk for precisely the reasons you cited: Just quicker & easier than powering up the whole recording studio. It's not exactly tiny, but at least when I'm playing "normal" bass it sounds like a bass.
I've been considering purchasing a deep pedal to throw myself into during this but Zoia never came to mind. I still am interested in Zoia, but for some reason it seems too deep even for a deeper pedal. @monsterthompson you have your head fully around it? Where would you say you are in your Zoia journey? You always seemed to be a bit ahead of the curve with that one.
I think it’s a powerful tool. I still don’t fully understand all the widgets and modules and how to make them fit together to make an interesting sound. I understand what they all do when I see them on a list, but my brain doesn’t synthesize that into a complicated effects chain. There have been a few times when I’ve tried to figure out how to make a patch work, and then realized that is the reason why a certain module exists.
The device itself and the patch building isn’t really all that hard to understand. The difficulty is keeping track of all of the parts and where you attach them. Then designing the layout of interface in a way that you would use it.
I find the buttons and single knob a little clunky, and I would really like a computer interface for building patches. However, the more I use it the less of a problem it becomes.
I have found it does some very useful things. Being able to use it as a sequencer and MIDI controller is pretty nice. There are quite a few utility functions that make it useful. It seems a little silly to use such a powerful tool to do some of the simple things, like make an 8 note midi keyboard, but it’s convenient to have it all in one spot.
I haven’t found the effects themselves to be terribly inspiring, but they aren’t bad at all. It will make you appreciate a pedal that has a dedicated “sound.” Like a delay with the tape or BBD character, or a fancy reverb. The fuzz/distortion/cab sim sounds aren’t anything to write home about. The compression is okay. There is looping and granular functionality that is nice to have.
I think diving in to the patches others have made is a mixed bag. They save you the legwork of designing, but then you have to understand the workflow of the creator. This is a blessing and a curse. There are several patches out there to sample.
Overall, I still think it’s a worthwhile purchase. I think you need to avoid self-imposed analysis paralysis. There are so many options available that it’s easy to get lost figuring out what build. I find the best approach is to know what you want ahead of time, write it down on a piece of paper, and then start building the patch. If you’re the kind of person who likes to just turn knobs and feel your way around the pedal until you find the sound you like, this is not the right tool for the job. If you’re willing to keep a journal of what it is you want, what it is you’ve made, and how it functions, I think this could be a really wonderful device. I think the more you use it the easier and more natural it becomes. If it’s something that you only occasionally take out to play then you’re always going to face a bit of a remembering and learning curve.
It's a 20-year-old Link Removed cabinet loaded with a ~60-year-old Altec 601 speaker that got re-coned as a full-range driver 35 years ago. The head is a ~15-year-old Acoustic Image Focus 1.
I only have headphones at home. No amps, no monitors. I go check mixes in my car, Ipad $h!t speakers, and the TV soundbar as references.
Been through ALOT of pairs in the last 20 years.
Now my favs by far are Thinksound On2. Best customer service in history.
Sadly they closed shop.
Been through ALOT of pairs in the last 20 years.
Now my favs by far are Thinksound On2. Best customer service in history.
Sadly they closed shop.
