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Amp for Progressive Rock

#22
OK, amending my recommendations to include Aguilar. So since you like warm, that'd be Genz Benz, Eden or Aguilar.

You didn't say anything about modern. But since progressive rock is a modern form, I'd say that goes without saying... :hmm:

MM

(By the way, I dig Porcupine Tree also. Colin's been playing a Spector, a Bongo and a Wal in recent years - all four-strings. The one word I'd use to describe his tone is "gutsy". He's Mr. Groove... :cool:)
 
#23
MysticMichael said:
OK, amending my recommendations to include Aguilar. So since you like warm, that'd be Genz Benz, Eden or Aguilar.

You didn't say anything about modern. But since progressive rock is a modern form, I'd say that goes without saying... :hmm:

MM

(By the way, I dig Porcupine Tree also. Coin's been playing a Spector, a Bongo and a Wal in recent years - all four-strings. The one word I'd use to describe his tone is "gutsy". He's Mr. Groove... :cool:)
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He recently started playing Basslab stuff as well. We don't hear as much fretless as we used to, but I hope that changes. His tone is gutsy, but on albums like "The Sky Moves Sideways" I'd definitely say that it is the epitome of warmth.

As far as the Aguilar stuff goes, do you think that the AG series are warm?
 
#24
Get this:

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And if you are not a 300-lb. Samoan, get one of these to go with it:

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#26
I love the tone, warmth, growl, grind and other prog-rockish bass sound adjectives I get using the tried and true SVT II Pro and SVT810e. I got mine for a steal but you probably won't find that rig for a grand and if you do, you'll be ripe for a hernia from schleping it to and from gigs.

As much as I LOVE my rig - I also love the fact that it LIVES in the band room we jam in and I don't have to haul it very frequently at all. For small gigs and miscellaneous jams outside of our jam space, I have a 1x15 home made Black Widow loaded cab and an ultra light GK RCB 200 that suits me just fine. Running it through a POD expands the tone options nicely.

And every time I read another Geddy Lee article and his system is described, I want to save my poor, achin' back and go that route. Check out Bassplayer.tv - Geddy's gear video. That'll give you a good idea of what one of the original prog-rockers uses!
 
#28
tZer said:
I love the tone, warmth, growl, grind and other prog-rockish bass sound adjectives I get using the tried and true SVT II Pro and SVT810e. I got mine for a steal but you probably won't find that rig for a grand and if you do, you'll be ripe for a hernia from schleping it to and from gigs.

As much as I LOVE my rig - I also love the fact that it LIVES in the band room we jam in and I don't have to haul it very frequently at all. For small gigs and miscellaneous jams outside of our jam space, I have a 1x15 home made Black Widow loaded cab and an ultra light GK RCB 200 that suits me just fine. Running it through a POD expands the tone options nicely.

And every time I read another Geddy Lee article and his system is described, I want to save my poor, achin' back and go that route. Check out Bassplayer.tv - Geddy's gear video. That'll give you a good idea of what one of the original prog-rockers uses!
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The $1k is just for the head alone.
 
#29
In Absentia said:
The $1k is just for the head alone.
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Dude - the world is your OYSTER!

Seek out KJung's advice (search on his user name). Now he tends to be very pro solid-state, light and "quick" - but he knows his gear and there are tons of threads where he elaborates on all sorts of heads and cabs.

That said - the tube route is the old-school way to get the prog sound, IMO. It's also fraught with issues - weight, tubes, etc...

And like I was saying - check out what Geddy Lee uses. He's essentially 'amp-free' (which is why you see chicken roasters or clothes dryers on stage instead of stacks and stacks of stacks). And Mr. Lee is arguably the most prog of prog bassists around. So looking into his past you could get some ideas of older, more traditional setups - Sunn, Ampeg, etc... Looking at his current set up you will get ideas about "amp-less" setups that deliver the goods too.
 
#30
tZer said:
Dude - the world is your OYSTER!

Seek out KJung's advice (search on his user name). Now he tends to be very pro solid-state, light and "quick" - but he knows his gear and there are tons of threads where he elaborates on all sorts of heads and cabs.

That said - the tube route is the old-school way to get the prog sound, IMO. It's also fraught with issues - weight, tubes, etc...

And like I was saying - check out what Geddy Lee uses. He's essentially 'amp-free' (which is why you see chicken roasters or clothes dryers on stage instead of stacks and stacks of stacks). And Mr. Lee is arguably the most prog of prog bassists around. So looking into his past you could get some ideas of older, more traditional setups - Sunn, Ampeg, etc... Looking at his current set up you will get ideas about "amp-less" setups that deliver the goods too.
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Thanks for the advice. I'm actually really familiar with Geddy's new setup. Good stuff.
 
#33
I second SWR. Prog's not about the volume so much as it is about getting a clear tone at both high and low frequencies. SWR's are really good for full-range music, though their output may not be at the volume levels needed for say, metal or hard rock.
 
#34
tZer said:
Dude - the world is your OYSTER!

Seek out KJung's advice (search on his user name). Now he tends to be very pro solid-state, light and "quick" - but he knows his gear and there are tons of threads where he elaborates on all sorts of heads and cabs.
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+1! You basically get your pick of heads.

And not brown-nosing here, but KJung DOES seem to be well versed and articulate. We all have knowledge, opinions and experience, but some of us project with more credibility for some reason, and he's one of them.

And hell, while I'm here, I may as well suggest a Markbass product, LOL.
 
#37
I put my money where my mouth is, but in addition to Eden, Glockenklang sounds pretty good to me. I got rid of SWR and Ampeg to get my Eden stuff, so no dice there. SWR is too sterile for me, but it served me well in terms of reliability.
 
#38
Not to rob the thread, but the GuzzleMug stuff is excellent.
I really like it.
Look for my friend's band, Crudelaque, on myspace.
For the amp, I have an Acoustic B200 and really like it.
For a smaller amp, I tried the Peavey Max 110-20 watt, and it blew away the Fender Rumble 25 and Acoustic B20. Very cool, deep bass tone.
Hope any of this helps.

Slackerprince



godspeed68 said:
I use Mesa stuff for Link Removed and it does the trick just fine.

You can find used all-tube heads under that price range, and after a good retube, it will put you at that price range. You'll be sailin' from then on out.


Got any samples of yer band?


tom
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#40
Slackerprince said:
Not to rob the thread, but the GuzzleMug stuff is excellent.
I really like it.
Look for my friend's band, Crudelaque, on myspace.
For the amp, I have an Acoustic B200 and really like it.
For a smaller amp, I tried the Peavey Max 110-20 watt, and it blew away the Fender Rumble 25 and Acoustic B20. Very cool, deep bass tone.
Hope any of this helps.

Slackerprince
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The smaller amps are a bit, well...small, for what I'm doing.

I'm down to the GBE1200, the Mesa Carbine, the higher powered Mark Bass gear, and the Gallien Krueger 2001RB. Just gotta figure out which one.
 

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