Amp placement on stage

[Marley's Ghost]

Looking for suggestions for amp placement on stage. The last two times we played out my rig was sandwiched between the guitarist's 412 stack and the drummers Carvin R1000 (micing kick and FX) I couldn't be heard well more than 10 feet from stage. I am running a Carvin BX1200 bridged at 800 watts/8ohms into an Avatar 410 neo. Maybe I just need to tweak eq? We are a classic/modern rock band.

 

[TimmyP]

If you have a scooped mid tone, it may sound great on its own, but will disappear when the band starts in. Could this be part of the trouble?

 

[Bob the bassist]

I'm in front and right of the drums (facing the crowd), my amp is behind the drums and to the left, angled about 20° to the right. The guitar is setup opposite:

  gtr               me

          drums
    bamp        gamp
   --------------------

I agree you should check your eq. Mine's mid-peaked, with a bit of bass boost. . . very farty and clanky- cuts right through.

 

[Marley's Ghost]

I do scoop the mids a bit. Will have to tweak. It is thunderous on stage, though.

 

[TimmyP]

If you have a sweepable low mid or a graphic, try pulling out some 160Hz (or as close as you can get) - that's a hot spot in many bass cabinets, and a cut there should take out some of the roar and boom, and may even allow you to dial some low end in.

 

[Marley's Ghost]

Thanks Timmy. Should be able to try that.


BX1200 has:

Advanced Equalization - three EQ sections
- Active Passive front panel input gain switch
- 5-band three sweep tone control section
- 9-band foot switch able graphic EQ

 

[uaudio]

I'm in front and right of the drums (facing the crowd), my amp is behind the drums and to the left, angled about 20° to the right. The guitar is setup opposite:

  gtr               me

          drums
    bamp        gamp
   --------------------

I agree you should check your eq. Mine's mid-peaked, with a bit of bass boost. . . very farty and clanky- cuts right through.

I am curious why you set your amps up this way. I can think of a lot of disadvantages from a setup like this, what are the advantages?

 

[Bob the bassist]

I am curious why you set your amps up this way. I can think of a lot of disadvantages from a setup like this, what are the advantages?

Our drummer is a very loud fellow. Imagine Keith Moon on speed. Goes through kevlar snare heads faster than most drummers go through plastic ones. This way, he takes the brunt of the backline. Also, that simplified diagram omits the keyboard rig at center stage, the four wedge monitors, and the two side-fill monitors just outside the bass & guitar rigs angled in about 45°. Everything gets nicely balanced in the monitors, which we run in stereo.

 

[ihateusernames]

Do you run a DI from the bass/amp to the FOH? If so just raise your mids, cut the lows, and crossfire the stage using your bass amp as a stage monitor only. Should help everyone in the band hear you great.