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Ampeg Heritage 810 vs Bergantino NV610
- Thread starter Bob Moulton
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I also suspect the endorsement contract, fees, clinics must have paid a big part in the decision.
Bergantino: 0; Hartke: $$$; the decision is easy to make.
I am not at all bashing a musician for adding some additional revenue to his or her bottom line. Making money in music is tough and one needs all revenue streams. I'm just suspecting that money played a part in this decision.
Patience lavaman. As soon as someone has experience with the direct comparison you requested, they'll chime in. In the meantime, nothing wrong with a little derailment as long as it productive, right?
I have not cranked the nv610 but I've got a feel for the tone. To me, it's actually got a lot of low end compared to the heritage. I find myself cutting lows vs boosting them with the heritage. The heritage has more texture and attitude, the berg is cleaner and can get a better modern tone with enough EQ. The berg sounds really different with different heads, the heritage tends to sound more like itself. The berg is easier to move around. But overall much more similar than different.
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Vic does a lot of international stuff too, though probably more with the Flecktones than solo. I think that doesn't repudiate what I said
Vic does a lot of international stuff too, though probably more with the Flecktones than solo. I think that doesn't repudiate what I said
Domestically speaking, yes. International and fly dates, no.
Zombie thread!!!
Well I have played both cabs, what people have said about the NV610 is true. The heritage in comparison is a bit woolier in sound, people have said "bigger" but I also think that comes from it being a taller cab and having a speaker higher to your ears. But with my SVT VR cranked I couldnt hear a volume difference...
I will note that dialing in any more pre-amp gain with the 810 brought on more...fartyness whereas the Berg seems to handle it a lot betterr, especially at higher bolumes
Well I have played both cabs, what people have said about the NV610 is true. The heritage in comparison is a bit woolier in sound, people have said "bigger" but I also think that comes from it being a taller cab and having a speaker higher to your ears. But with my SVT VR cranked I couldnt hear a volume difference...
I will note that dialing in any more pre-amp gain with the 810 brought on more...fartyness whereas the Berg seems to handle it a lot betterr, especially at higher bolumes
Not played one, but I've heard quite a few clips of the Berg, and sorry but I'll keep my Heritage. Good cab, but it sounds like it was designed for folks who like solid state amps with a lot of headroom and active neck-through basses with no grunt.
I have always preferred the Berg NV215 to the NV610. Contrary to what some others have stated I always thought my Ampeg 810 handled the grunt of either of my SVTs a tad easier than the Berg 610. Certainly I thought at the time that the fridge went deeper. Both fabulous cabinets though - whatever floats your boat....
Just wish I could have tried an NV412 before they went out of production.
Just wish I could have tried an NV412 before they went out of production.
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Sorry, bud, but I have to disagree with you, there. The NV610 is just glorious with a bolt-on, passive bass, thumping through an all-tube head. That's how I use mine, most often, and it definitely excels at this task.
These are ALL different shades of sealed cab greatness. I like em all. The NV412 is my fave of the NV's that I tried (610, 215 & 412).
Fair enough, Tom. Always interested in what you have to say about gear because you've played it all
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Fair enough, Tom. Always interested in what you have to say about gear because you've played it all
Mutual love and respect, my friend.
+2 Sorry Jimmy but that is, uncharacteristically for you
, waaay off the mark. Not even sure what you based that on.There was a time on TB where people actually questioned how well the NV cabs might work with SS heads since they were designed with tube amps in mind. As I have recommended over the years, the cab does not discriminate. It works great with every head I have used with it. Aguilar DB 680/728, DB750, 70s SVT, Peavey Classic 400, Ampeg V-4B, QSC PLX with a variety of preamps, GK 1001RB-II, MB200, Walkabout, Carbine M6. So on and so forth.
Well what can I tell you? That's how it comes across to me in several clips I've heard of it. Not that it isn't a good sound, but it sounds a little more even and flat than the 810e, which I'm sure some folks enjoy but I'm not one of them. That said, with a few spins of the dial, I'm sure I could make quite an enjoyable sound out of it. I just prefer the 810e.
You don't have to tell me anything. I just wanted to point out that listening to a few clips of a cab and concluding it's designed for active neck through basses and ss amps is an unusually random assesment. The Berg NV610 really is not a drastic departure from an Ampeg 810.
I just wanted to point out that listening to a few clips of a cab and concluding it's designed for active neck through basses and ss amps is an unusually random assesment. The Berg NV610 really is not a drastic departure from an Ampeg 810.
