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Bummer, I used PF-500 back line pushing an 810 and it sounded great! Wonder if the one you had was one of the duds they had for a bit.I used one provided as back line running into a Genz Benz 2x10.
It kept cutting out on me unless I had the volume down a bit. It left a bad impression on me as I wasn’t playing that loud![]()
I’m thinking so. The fellow providing it seem to indicate afterwards it was an issue. I was playing reggae though it but I didn’t consider myself pushing it., 210s and all. Still, it shut down for a couple of moments. I think the kid tuned it down, it stayed on and off we wentBummer, I used PF-500 back line pushing an 810 and it sounded great! Wonder if the one you had was one of the duds they had for a bit.![]()
From what I remember, there was a series of PF500s with a specific circuit board that had a component on that board with a very high percentage fail rate. After that build run and the change to the next series board, their fail rate declined to industry average. Best I remember, the PF350 & 800 were not involved.
The PF500 “sudden fail syndrome” was over 10 years ago and the changes made to correct the issue was also over 10 years ago. Units built after that era were about the same reliability as any similar amp, but Ampeg reputation took a major hit for a while. I wouldn’t buy a used one without finding the ID info of ones that failed in minutes so I could at least avoid that batch.
There are more than a few threads about the PF500 failing era. Here’s a link to one from 2015;
Well, I bought a PF500 used from Guitar Center. It went out 3 out of 3 shows. Taken back for repair every time. The last time I got it back literally EVERYTHING had been replaced. Essentially a new amp minus the casing. And guess what? It died. It's going in the trash. I will never buy a newer Ampeg model again. The repairman told me that he sees a lot of Class D amps. I should have just gotten an older USA SVT3pro or something. Dangit. No offense to anyone, but I had my doubts and I was right. It felt like a cheap internet modem and went out with no abuse.
I like both those amps, I’d use either.I’ve had one of the early, pre-2013 fix PF-500s since 2011 - the version everyone points to when they talk about protection-circuit issues. Mine held up through 100+ gigs a year, though I only dipped into 4-ohm loads a few times.
As the outdoor, hot-weather gigs started stacking up a few years ago, I kept that reputation in mind and picked up an Aguilar Tone Hammer 500 as a backup. Ended up preferring it - still does the vintage thing, but with a tighter feel and quicker attack - so now the PF-500 rides the bench.
I’ve only gigged my PF-500 twice I think, I usually use my Genz Benz Streamliner or one of my SVT-CLs. But this thread’s got me thinking I should trot it out again soon.Replaced my SVT3-PRO with a PF-500 several years ago to lighten up the load as I get older. I got the PF-500 when they were on closeout from being discontinued in favor of the Venture line, so it was a really good value. It's been my main practice/rehearsal/gigging amp since I bought it, and has yet to present any problems (knock-on-wood). I usually play it through both a Hartke HyDrive HD210 and a G-K NEO 115, so I usually use it at 4 ohms, but I occasionally use it at 8 ohms with only the Hartke cab for rehearsals.
I do bring a backup amp to gigs (BBE MAX preamp/Carvin DCM2000 power amp), but I leave that in the car unless needed, which has been never. And by using two cabs now instead of the one I used to use (Ampeg PR-410HLF), I always have one that will work if the other blows for whatever reason.