Right, I said that I personally would not do it (because of the volume mismatch), but both are 8 ohm cabs so the 800, on paper, can handle that.
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Ampeg PF800 with PF-210HE
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I wasn't sure if we were talking about the 410HE or 410HLF.
If you are mixing a 410HE and a 210HE, you may want to change the 210 to 32 ohms to avoid overpowering it.
Ah, good point cf. I just assumed we were talking all Portaflex line, but now I'm not sure what 410 we were talking about!
That would be 16 ohms for the 210HE, but I really wonder what (volume) benefit would be created.
I really recommend either one PF410LF (or two if you like absurd crazy loud), or two cabs in any combination of the other three kinds.
Hey, there's no such thing as a bad question or idea, IMO.
In this case it's just my experience that one PF800 with a PF115HE or PF210HE will create plenty volume, two of those: always more than enough.
But most importantly, you get to play Pink Floyd music! I love Pink Floyd music.
In this case it's just my experience that one PF800 with a PF115HE or PF210HE will create plenty volume, two of those: always more than enough.
But most importantly, you get to play Pink Floyd music! I love Pink Floyd music.
That would yield about 100 watts per cone. Enough to yield a noticeable difference.
Fair enough, I'll elaborate my opinion:
The PF210HE has two 16 ohm drivers (I just checked) run parallel, giving a 8 ohm load.
So, IMO, these are the options:
1) combine the PF410LF and the PF210HE as is:
Result: You can't dial up the mastervolume as far as with the PF410LF alone: no volume benefit
2) combine the PF410LF and the PF210HE (wired in series > 32 ohm):
Total speakerload: 6,4 ohm. This means the PF410LF gets 4/5 of the power, the PF210HE gets 1/5 of the power.
I don't think that's more than a 2db increase at best (don't know the exact formula I must admit).
But then the PF210HE is pretty useless as standalone cab.
3) Only use one driver of the PF210HE, a 16 ohm load and combine with the PF410LF:
Total speakerload: 5,3 ohm. 2/3 of the power going to four drivers (PF410LF) and 1/3 going to one driver (PF210HE, or better PF110HE).
This gives more or less the same situation as option 1) with the PF210HE again not optimal as standalone cab.
(and rewiring the PF210HE all the time...not my cup of tea)
4) Change the drivers in the PF210HE in one way or another, so there would be no power and/or impedance problem.
That would cost extra money and question is how the replacement drivers would sound (in combination with the PF410LF)
But that's just my humble opinion, maybe there's a mistake in my calculations.
Maybe some of the engineers could help out?
It is a blast.Hey, there's no such thing as a bad question or idea, IMO.
In this case it's just my experience that one PF800 with a PF115HE or PF210HE will create plenty volume, two of those: always more than enough.
But most importantly, you get to play Pink Floyd music! I love Pink Floyd music.
I am now leaning toward a PF800 and a PF-115HE. Then, if needed, I'll add the PF-115LF.
Fascinating thread. I'm in the exact same position as the OP. I'm playing jump swing and blues these days - I'm about to nab a nice Fender American Deluxe P, an Ampeg PF800, and the only missing bit of the equation is what speaker cab. After reading this thread I'm leaning to an Ampeg PF-115LF. For me, the PF800 is for clean headroom (I have no trouble controlling my volume finger) and since I'm 63, I can't see myself schlepping a 4x10.It is a blast.
I am now leaning toward a PF800 and a PF-115HE. Then, if needed, I'll add the PF-115LF.
Hello High Camp! Yes, I suspect you are quite right. One thing I know I'll like is that I'll be able to store the amp head right on the top panel of the speaker cabinet itself. So that will mean that I'll only have one box to load in and load out.I'm sure the PF115LF will make you smile!
If you want to attach the amp (PF350, PF500 or PF800) on the top panel, you'll be wanting the PF115HE instead of the PF115LF.
(You can only use the fliptop feature with the PF115HE and the PF210HE cab).
Now the PF115HE is just as powerful as the PF115LF, is a tiny little bit smaller and lighter and a tad higher voiced, but more than low enough for my taste.
Oh my gosh, you are right. Thanks for calling that to my attention. I thought all the Portaflex series cabinets would hold a Portaflex amp in place.
