Wow I'm def sold, I want the 115 cab. I play a fender p bass and upright. Jimmy, you play upright through your pf350 with 2 115's right? Is everything clear and nice and punchy and not muddy etc? thanks
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Ampeg Portaflex PF-115HE vs. PF-210HE
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When I play upright with it, I use a VT Deluxe as a splitter for my electric and upright, and the VTD cuts the lows off at a higher point than the PF115he goes, more like an SVT 810, and I really don't think I've ever played upright without it in that cab. I have played electric through it without the VTD, though, and didn't have any muddiness problems, though if you crank the bass knob, the potential is there. But it's got a good amount of mid and high content too, so I think you would be fine, although that's always subject to interpretation.
I haven't used the PF210 on a gig, but since it's a little higher tuned and the mids are slightly more prominent, I would expect it to go a tiny bit louder. Don't know if that adds up to a hill of beans on a gig, though.
Hello everyone. I know the conversations on here are a couple of years old regarding Ampeg 210 and 15 but played today the 210 today amazed at how good the sound was. Next I compared the Mark Bass 210 which was interesting. The Among to me, sounded more open and the snap a little tighter.
Hi all, I own the pf 350 and am about to purchase either the pf 115 or 210. I mainly play in a funk band which requires a certain amount of slapping although I am required at times as a free lance bassist and in other bands to cross over into different genres. I noticed Ed Freidland demonstrating the 115 on you tube but haven't found anything similar on the 210. Although I have spent some time reading your opinions and experiences in these mostly informative threads, I haven't seen much mention of, and guess I would also find it interesting to know the different sorts of styles you guys are playing?
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When only using one cab, I prefer the PF115HE.
(when using two cabs, I use the PF115HE and the PF210HE)
Why? Because I find the 115 gives you more lows, which comes in handy with reggae, country and so on.
And dialing out deep lows from a 115 is easier than dialing in extra lows in a 210.
>>> By the way, this contrast is not as much as it may seem from my description, but you'll be getting the general idea.
IMHO.
Thanks high camp, interesting what you were saying re dialing in deeper frequencies. I'm fortunate enough to have the opportunity to AB them both tomorrow in a music shop that has both in stock. I'm not playing much reggae or country (except on odd occasions) but more so funk, hip hop, soul, r&b rock, latin, jazz, my main basses being an EBMM5H, a EB bongo 5HH, a Fender Am deluxe P 4string and a fender Am jazz. I can get alot of lows out of these as well, especially the active basses. My main rig these days is a 100T, a great versatile head, through a neo 410. I was really gassin" for a V4 100 reissue but at $800 more down under here in Oz I went with the 100T and so far no regrets whatsoever, really is a beautiful versatile head but now going off topic. .The pf 350 I bought mainly to keep under the car seat as a back up head but also need smaller rig for smaller venues, plus really dig Ampeg sound. I feel that down the track I'll probably end up with both the pf 115 and 210. It's good to have choices.
I have the PF500 with the 115 and love it. I did side by side the 115 and the 210, and was hard pressed to hear a difference, maybe a bit more bottom on the 115. And a few pounds less to carry, so I was sold. And I like the availability of the horn on the 115, but hardly ever use it. Next year, planning on adding another one. (Just because I can and it looks cool. Probably don't really "need" it!)
I ended up buying the 115 today after a side by side ABing with the 210. I took in my PF 350 and liked both boxes very much and would've bought either but in the end I found the 115 had a certain richness and depth that the 210 lacked. Also I found when I had the volume and bass both cranked at about or slightly over 3/4, middle and treble a notch over 1/2, the 115 still maintained a great sound, broke up in a good way and just got thicker and more improved, where the 210 more so started farting out. In saying that I would've bought the 210 if the 15 wasn't there to try as well as it sounded awesome up until this point still delivering volume in spades to cut most gigs. I also tried both boxes together and this rig nails it. unbelievable how well they complimented each other as well as how full and awesome they sounded, what a rig!. I have owned boutique amps that cost 2-3 times as much that sounded no better than this set up, in fact I prefer the tone that this rig delivers. I think I'll eventually add another cab too. Love the look as well, Cheers!
I totally agree with rickbass1 and GoLeafsGo, the Portaflex series, cabs and amps, outperform their pricerange.
For me the only way up would be a V4B or other Ampeg all-tube head.
And in the volume department, no complaints either!
For me the only way up would be a V4B or other Ampeg all-tube head.
And in the volume department, no complaints either!
Can't go wrong with either of those cabs, IMO. I tried both and went with the PF210HE. To my ears, it was just a tad tighter in the lows although both cabs sounded great. Typically I run it with my PF350. GREAT combination!
I've got a PF-210 and a PF-500. Great combo, but I find the cab a little to low-end oriented, and I find myself missing a bit of clarity tightness. But, it's a great, fairly lightweight cab. I haven't played through the 115 so I can't compare them. The PF-500 is a little beast.
Not gigging it as often as I had been when I first got it, but I can't see myself parting with it.
Not gigging it as often as I had been when I first got it, but I can't see myself parting with it.
Ditto re V4bI totally agree with rickbass1 and GoLeafsGo, the Portaflex series, cabs and amps, outperform their pricerange.
For me the only way up would be a V4B or other Ampeg all-tube head.
And in the volume department, no complaints either!
The PF210he is a little higher tuned than the PF115he, but both are highly capable of slap tones. They have a good quality compression driver for the tweeter instead of a crappy piezo, and if you're like me and you prefer tweeterless slap tones, enough highs without the tweeter.
I thought I'd be walking out with the 210 but after hearing them side by side preferred the 115, all subjective I guess, but to my surprise the 115 also handled higher volumes a bit better. Both bins played at the same time were even twice as good though I think it might have been you JimmyM that also mentioned this in a previous thread. Tweeter's a good looking thing when you lift the lid. Off to do some experimenting.
Agreed on the smoothness of the compression driver. I'm usually meh with tweeters but I actually run the tweeter on full in my PF210 and dial back the treble on the EQ. Hits the sweet spot for me.
