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Ampeg SVT vs V4BH

#21
JimmyM said:
If by "mojo" you mean "overdrive," true. But if you mean "a good clean sound," I don't know...I often run SVT's at low volumes and they always sound great to me.
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Yeah that's what I meant.

My main point is that if you're used to playing amps with alot of wattage it's easy to forget how much difference a lot of speakers can make.

My v4bh is the lowest wattage amp I've ever had other than my first 72 Bassman 50.

Not too long ago I too was saying it wasn't loud enough for my band. I added some speaker, decreased the bass a little and added a little more high end to cut thru and now it sounds just like an ampeg should, and hangs quite well with the band.

It does depend what you want. It is not the kind of amp that will supply tons of booty for the dance floor.

100W will give you the grittier tone, 300W will give way more headroom but you might need to be louder than you like for the sweet spot.

It's a tough decision. I love the V4BH but I'm always experimenting.

I have owned an SVT II non-pro and I really liked the tone in the sweet spot but always wanted to find the sweet spot at a lower volume.

Small and Med clubs for my bands. Nothing BIG yet.

CM
 
#22
Owning both, my favorite setup is driving the SVT's power section with the V4BH's front end with an 810 for each. It's the best of both worlds. Don't have to crank the SVT for grit, but more power than the V4BH can deliver on its own. But if you just get the SVT, there are tons of options for adding grit.
 
#23
Update: I bought a SVT VR and matching 810AV cab. Tested it last night and I love it! Warm and in-the-face at the same time. Here is my little family:
 

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#27
Thanks all! Really an addictive thing it seems, playing one of these.. That Sandberg fiver with chromes through this rig sounds unbelievably good :) the P and the J in the pic also sound wicked of course.

Looking forward to spending time with it and toying with the settings, tweaking the sound with the 3 basses. Taking it to rehearsal wednesday, gonna be LOUD!!
 
#30
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Having fallen in love with my SVT VR head and 810, I'm leaning towards buying another cab for it. I rehearse at 3-4 different locations, so it would be preferable I think.

Knowing the SVT VR, which 410 cab ( or other) would be a good match? I am no expert on things like B vs SVT cab series, or HE vs HLF, etc..

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#31
well the HE's and the proneo are out of the question because you can't run the amp at 8 ohms. That leaves you with the classic and heritage HLF cabs if you are sticking with ampeg. I own the svt classic 410hlf and it is great but probably one of the most awkward 410's to move around. The heritage is the same thing just US made with different speakers. I haven't played one so I couldn't say if one is better than the other. The HLF is a very different cab than your 810e and will sound very different. I haven't had to lug an 810 around but I don't think a 410HLF would really be that much easier to move around, they are big 410 cabs. Maybe 2 210AV cabs would be the best way to go if you want to keep the sound of the 810 and have something that is easier to move around to several rehearsal spaces.
 
#32
IMO, a 410HE would be great, but you'd need to replace all four speakers with 16 ohm 10's wired in parallel to get a 4 ohm load, since they come with four 32 ohm 10's in it and are 8 ohm cabs. or you could install four 8 ohm 10's, all wired in parallel for a 2 ohm load, since a VR can run either a 2 or 4 ohm load.
 
#35
I concur with the two 210 option. I used to use two Ampeg 210 Classic series cabs (albeit with an Eden head). They sounded great, and to my ears, more like a true 810 (being that every set of two speakers are walled off in an 810). 410s in general tend to be boomier than an 810 for this reason. Plus the 410HLF is ported and substantially deeper.
 
#37
Thanks all, 2 x 210AV cabs is interesting, I think I ruled them out because they are 8 ohm, but for some reason the thought of running two of them didn't occur to me :p

I also like the argument that the Ampeg 410s are cumbersome, because then I might as well (as BassBob1 said) lug around my 810 :)
 
#38
Klonk said:
Thanks all, 2 x 210AV cabs is interesting, I think I ruled them out because they are 8 ohm, but for some reason the thought of running two of them didn't occur to me :p

I also like the argument that the Ampeg 410s are cumbersome, because then I might as well (as BassBob1 said) lug around my 810 :)
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Right!

Anyway, I've done my SVT into two SVT 210av's before, and it sounds quite awesome, but they're loaded with lighter duty speakers, so don't expect to be able to crank it super loud. You can get loud enough for most rehearsals probably, but Ampeg'll be the first to tell you that they're not meant to take a cranked SVT.
 
#39
OP, I recommend you to have a look into Bergantino NV series. I've ended up with a

NV610 paired with SVT-CL. It's a sealed cab with classic looks and what a tone it has!

And congrats on your new Ampeg AV rig!
 
#40
Thanks Miholc, and I will check them out. Not sure how easy they are to get ahold of here in Norway, but I'll check, they get good reviews I see.

On a slightly related note: I do own an Ampeg BA600/210 combo. Is it possible to use the Send/Return effects loop to run my SVT in here, bypassing the original amp?
 

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