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Another combo amp recommendation request.

I've owned Markbass cmd121p and used for a lot of small to medium gigs and even expanded it with NY121 cab with some success. I now have a Mesa d800 and a couple of mark bass 2x10's using one for smaller and two for larger gigs. All that said - I have a Traynor SB112 for the past ten years after owning some rumble combos and just love the traynor. I use it at home for practice and for small gigs it has been great. I can even play it with a drummer and a NOT so loud guitarist or keyboard. Once the volume flows its got to be something larger, but the SB112 puts out 200 watts - it is a 4 ohm ceramic speaker and IMO has really great, warm, versatile tone. I also like that its front ported (the sb115 is rear ported). It has a DI and a tweeter defeat on it and also a "bass expander" which I don't use much, but it does seem to help remove mud sometimes, but I have an HPF for that. Its pretty lightweight too.
 
I’m looking for a lightweight 1x12 combo (but open to other configurations if they end up meeting my needs).

About 20 years ago I stopped gigging regularly on bass and focused on recording, other instruments, etc. The only bass amp I own now is a Behringer BX1200, (a 120W knockoff of a Hartke Kickback with a couple extra features). It’s OK for practice, but it weighs about 50 pounds and has had reliability issues. I will likely be back to occasional small club gigs in the fall and want a better, lighter amp before then.

My leading choices are mostly obvious ones:
An actual Hartke KB12. The new ones are only 30 pounds. Concern: limited EQ.
One of the many MarkBass combos available. Concern: Which one?!?
Gallien-Krueger MB112-II. Concern: Enough volume?
Traynor SB112. Concern: Where to find one to try (near Chicago). The dealers listed on the Traynor website seem to be defunct (e.g. Sam Ash) or not really carrying the product.

Background:

The two instruments I’ll use are:
Hamer Chapparal 5-string (low B) fretless, EMG active pickups.
Alvarez 4-string fretted acoustic, piezo pickup (only rarely used).

I don’t generally use external effects.

FWIW, my biggest stylistic influences are probably Herbie Flowers and Mike Watt, but my preferred tone color (on fretless) is more like Fernando Saunders. There will be one guitarist/singer and a drummer doing originals. Call it "alternative" or "indie" if you must.
If you can afford it, GK Legacy 112.
 
Thanks everyone. Some responses and clarifications...
I’m not sure why you would want to limit your choices to combos, in this day and age of plentiful lightweight heads and cabs. I have a Quilter BB803 head which weighs about as much as a loaf of bread.
I don't necessarily want to limit my choice; I did say I was open to other configurations. I figure if I start my search with combos and find one that I love, it will be cheaper than separates. If I can only find what I love with separates, so be it.

Also: Two jacks and a cord that always get disconnected for transport is three points of failure that would be lower risk in a combo where they stay put.

One feature of the BB803 I like is the parametric midrange. One of my previous combo amps had this.
Many have their own opinions mine on Markbass was formed hearing quite a few live in the wild always sounded excellent in mix
This is an important point. I have heard Markbass, Hartke, and GK in the wild as well (though you can't always tell what's between the bass and the amp).

The listening environment in retail stores can be deceiving.
Tone wise, you can’t go wrong with the GK. If it’s not too heavy for you to handle, you won’t be disappointed.
It looks like it's only 30 pounds, similar to the others. Maybe an earlier generation was heavier?
For me, Markbass 102p combo has been a winner for all sizes of gigs. I will say that im less of a fan of a pure piezo pickup setup through it, though, even with a preamp.
Thanks for noticing that detail about the piezo in my post. I really would like to find something that will work well with both of my instruments (which I've had for more than 30 years and don't expect to change or augment any time soon).
Everyone is going to recommend the amp/cab or combo their ears personally prefer and works for them, (myself included.)

What you need to find out is what your ears prefer and works for you.

"Unfortunately", the only way to find out what is right for you is to go and personally audition equipment while using your personal bass and any effects you may use.

"Fortunately", your located in the Chicago area where there's still many brick and mortar music stores still open for business, stores that will have bass equipment available, in stock, for you to audition.

I'd suggest your starting at your nearest Guitar Center. Most GC's will usually have Ampeg, Fender, MarkBass, GC Acoustic bass equipment on the floor for you to A/B compare. Some GC's will also have GK, Hartke, ect. Call around and find Chicagoland stores that carry Genzler, Mesa, ect.

Try anything and everything you can find. Don't consider brand name, cosmetics, driver size, ect., ect.
Pick what will work for you sound/tone wise, power wise, number of drivers needed, ect. for the musically situation you anticipate working in.
I was hoping that people would recommend their preference while also describing the way their instruments, needs, or situation are similar to mine. That's actually quite helpful.

I do plan on auditioning some. I don't want to audition tons. Music is already a sideline and I don't want shopping for an amp to become another sideline to that sideline. My goal in posting here was to narrow the search if possible.

Your profile says you're from Illinois. I'll visit a bunch of stores if you're driving. ;) (Chicago area traffic is awful. I wouldn't live here and work a day job in the Loop without a [mostly-]functional public transportation system.)
I suggest and know Mesa D350 and Subway 1x12 or Genzler MG 350 and ULV 12 is better for OP(at a cost)🙂
Looks like the Genzler MG 350 is another with parametric mid. If I do end up in separate land, I will probably try that one.
SB112 for the win. Gollihur Music in NJ regularly stocks & sells online.
I have an SB115 (which is fantastic) and the Hartke 12 combo which is great only if you like the snappy sound of their amps.
I guess I used to like the "snappy" sound better (when I bought the Behringer). Not quite as much now.
The Fender Rumble 100 combo is what you describe. It does have a 12" speaker. I've been using one for several years. This past Sunday (7/5/2026), I took it to a small outdoor venue to accompany an acoustic singer/songwriter type. It filled the bill. This afternoon, it will be used for a band reheasal.
I originally disregarded it because I thought it might be underpowered for me. I might give one a try.
The Hartke KB combos would make great pedal platforms and stage monitors. If you get your sound from your pedal board, I might go with Hartke. If not, you might find it a bit boring with just your bass plugged in.

The Traynor would be a lot like the GK, only more transparent/less colored. I used the 15 inch traynor combo and didn't like it because it wasn't bright enough ,but I hear the 12 inch combo is much more even. It's a popular budget choice for upright bass as well.
I rarely use pedals, and I already was wondering whether the preamp/EQ on the KB would suit.
My advice is to think beyond what will be adequate for your immediate needs and get something that is potentially expandable in the future -- if, say, you get a gig in a bigger room, or decide to add a second guitar player, etc. That's one advantage of a separate cab and head: You can add a second matching cab if you ever need to. Another option to choose a combo that can support an external cab.
The second guitarist passed away in 2023. I think I'm in the stage of life where I want something that can get smaller in the future. o_O
The first lightweight 1x12 combo that came to mind when I read your post is the Ampeg RB-112. It weighs 26 pounds. :cool:
That's another one like the Fender Rumble that I thought might be underpowered for my needs. Maybe I'll give it a try.
I have a Traynor SB112 for the past ten years after owning some rumble combos and just love the traynor. I use it at home for practice and for small gigs it has been great. I can even play it with a drummer and a NOT so loud guitarist or keyboard. Once the volume flows its got to be something larger, but the SB112 puts out 200 watts - it is a 4 ohm ceramic speaker and IMO has really great, warm, versatile tone. I also like that its front ported (the sb115 is rear ported). It has a DI and a tweeter defeat on it and also a "bass expander" which I don't use much, but it does seem to help remove mud sometimes, but I have an HPF for that. Its pretty lightweight too.
I hadn't noticed that it's front ported. Can you describe how that helps? I find that the (rear-ported) Behringer is really sensitive to room positioning, especially if it's near a wall.
 
I find that the (rear-ported) Behringer is really sensitive to room positioning, especially if it's near a wall.
After digging out this old thread, I think the problem with the Behringer might be because it has a single port directly behind the driver which can make it more directional:

 
Thanks everyone. Some responses and clarifications...
I'd just like to point out how nice it is to see an OP respond thoroughly and quickly to the various suggestions offered. Too often people start a thread asking for advice and then disappear for weeks, which always makes me feel like I wasted my time trying to help.
 
I have a MarkBass CMD 1x12. 300 W @ 8 ohms, 500 W @ 4 ohms. Light, portable, loud, good eq.
It was the only choice in my area as GK does not have a dealer near me.
$950.00 new and I have seen them at $750 new during the holidays.
GK is nice but but more money. I run active basses thru it and it holds fine.
 
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Thanks everyone. Some responses and clarifications...

I hadn't noticed that it's front ported. Can you describe how that helps? I find that the (rear-ported) Behringer is really sensitive to room positioning, especially if it's near a wall.
The SB112 has a front slot port which puts out some nice bottom and avoids the wall problem that rear ported cabs have unless keeping a safe wall distance (I try to keep my rear ported cabs about 12-18 inches from walls). For tight stages and best front projection I always prefer front ported, but also own several rear ported cabs that I keep a good distance from walls for best performance. There's lots of threads about front vs rear ported cabs, but have had some tough times in smaller venues with rear ported cabs when there isn't enough space to wall to get good response. There's also different rear porting options (slot, round, staggered) which likely contributes to varied room response of those cabs especially in tight spaces. Just another factor to consider with your purchase.
 
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The SB112 has a front slot port which puts out some nice bottom and avoids the wall problem that rear ported cabs have unless keeping a safe wall distance (I try to keep my rear ported cabs about 12-18 inches from walls). For tight stages and best front projection I always prefer front ported, but also own several rear ported cabs that I keep a good distance from walls for best performance. There's lots of threads about front vs rear ported cabs, but have had some tough times in smaller venues with rear ported cabs when there isn't enough space to wall to get good response. There's also different rear porting options (slot, round, staggered) which likely contributes to varied room response of those cabs especially in tight spaces. Just another factor to consider with your purchase.
If too boomy, I turn the bass down.
 
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I was hoping that people would recommend their preference while also describing the way their instruments, needs, or situation are similar to mine. That's actually quite helpful.

Your profile says you're from Illinois. I'll visit a bunch of stores if you're driving. ;) (Chicago area traffic is awful. I wouldn't live here and work a day job in the Loop without a [mostly-]functional public transportation system.)

My equipment preferences and my musical situation.

Band is a 5 pcs., working, semi-touring, loud drummer, outlaw biker country, country/rock group. We play everything from large stage outdoor fairs, festivals, bike runs, to local bars, pubs and animal clubs.

I'm a fingers only player.
I have FOH support 100% of the time.

Gigging signal chain = Old, old, passive, stock, 4 string Fender Jazz using Dunlop Super Bright Nickels, 40 to 100 (strings are replaced often) > Sansamp V2 BDDI (set clean and used as a quasi limiter/mid boost/clean volume boost) > G.K. MB Fusion 800, 800 watts at 4 ohms (set clean with a line to FOH) > 4 ohm RevSound RS210 cabinet, 650 watts cap. (used as a bass stage monitor as a single point source for the low-end for the near field only).
(Backup amp heads), Genz-Benz 9.0. or G.K. MB2-500.
(Backup bass), passive/active, 4 string, Fender Elite Jazz with Dunlop SB Nickel strings.

The Jazz, Dunlop, Sansamp, G.K. Fusion, RS210 combination gives me a clean, clear, full, well defined sound/tone, and if needed, (for such a small system), it's capable of unbelievably loud volume that will maintain it's composure at those levels.

Your lucky to have brick and mortar music stores that are relatively close to your location and that still has bass equipment for you to audition.
I'm in central, southern Illinois. Down here most brick and mortars are gone. The couple that are within a couple of hours from me only carry entry level bass starter packs and bedroom practice amps.
 
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Amps are such an interesting topic these days. It seems that more an more players are using emulators and the house PA or a powered PA speaker for a stage monitor or even to carry the house if it's a small club.

It seems that most manufacturers have some form of 100-800 watt combo or head based on the standard class D power amps available.

I got a Fender Rumble 500 combo when I moved, and I hadn't been able to bring my amps with me, fully expecting to get rid of the Rumble once I got my GK amps and Bag End cabs with me.

It turns out that the Rumble is well thought out and even though it's a little bass heavy and mid shy, it responds well to EQ, and it also has an effects loop so I can use whatever preamp pedal I have either in front or bypassing the preamp. I think most amps what have more than 100 w have this feature as well.

I think it's worth trying out whatever amps are near you and try to find one that sounds good to you. Having it sound different in the store vs at a venue or at home is why we all have EQ options to add on top of our setups. There's so much variation in venues so it's good to have various tone shaping tools to boost or cut undesired frequencies.

Good luck with your search. I used to be very particular about amps. I'm less so now, even though I still love GK and their tone stack and overdrive. These days I seem to use SVT style or B15 style preamps more often, but it's partially because that seems to be the most common one around.
 
I just read through this other thread, which reminded me of this one, and might provide some useful info:


I have experience with Fender's Rumble 100, which is a great little amp, but I think you'll want more, especially because you play a five. For me, the Rumble 100 isn't quite gig-worthy, unless it's a modest volume gig, or you're running through the PA and using it largely as a stage monitor. My old Roland Cube Bass 100 is similar in this respect, and it punches harder than the Fender.

So, IMO, something like the G-K MB 112 or a high-wattage MarkBass combo would be much better. (Or, if you have the funds, the G-K Legacy 112.)

But, since you're open to other configurations, consider Fender's Rumble 500 2x10. Yes, its size makes it less wieldy than a 1x12 combo, but it's extremely light and easy to manage, and it's definitely gig-worthy IMO. One of my bands' rehearsal spaces has one of these, and I think it's great. It has good flexibility and handles the B strings on my fives (at rehearsal volume, at least). Plus, it can drive an extension cab.

For many years, my main rig was a 1x12: G-K MB-500 head through a G-K Neo112 cab (first gen). This was a very capable, great-sounding rig that handled my G&L M2500, no problem, and with such a lightweight head it was easily manageable. Not the grab-and-go convenience of a combo, but still great. The G-K Legacy 112 combo should be similar to this rig, and the current G-K Neo IV cabs are significantly lighter than the first-gen models. (They're so light that I recently upgraded to a Neo IV 212 cab, which is only a few pounds heavier than my old Neo112 cab.)
 
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Thanks again to everyone taking the time and effort to write a detailed response. I haven't gotten out shopping yet, but I'm tracking some of the models down locally.

I should have said something about other amps I used previously:
  • A blackface Bassman (a friend working for a trash collector rescued it and I repaired it to use) through a homebrew 1x15 cabinet with a neat old Jensen driver. I know this sound is no longer to my taste.
  • Two different Peavey 1x15 combos, a TNT 100 and TNT 150. Both really heavy even when I was in my 20s. At the time, I liked my tone in them until they were pushed too hard. My tastes may have changed since then. Neither could keep up with the drummer I played with at the time. Aside from power, I preferred TNT 100 because it had the parametric mid EQ.
Your lucky to have brick and mortar music stores that are relatively close to your location and that still has bass equipment for you to audition.
I'm in central, southern Illinois. Down here most brick and mortars are gone. The couple that are within a couple of hours from me only carry entry level bass starter packs and bedroom practice amps.
20 or 30 years ago you'd never hear me say that I was lucky to have Guitar Center, but I guess that's where we are now. I've avoided them for so long, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised when I return. I used to like our Sam Ash until that chain closed. The neighborhood shop where I bought my acoustic bass in 1992 is still around and has a good instrument selection but they only carry small practice amps.

A Guitar Center about 30 minutes away from me has a couple Markbass combos, a GK MB112, and a Fender Rumble in stock so that will be my first stop.

It's a shame there's nothing else for you downstate. I searched online was surprised to see how little there is even in Champaign! A Big 10 college town surrounded by high-tech and industry ought to have more. (They sure did when I was a student in the '80s and the town was a lot smaller.) C.V. Lloyde is still there but it's no longer a retailer, only doing rentals and installed systems.
It turns out that the Rumble is well thought out and even though it's a little bass heavy and mid shy, it responds well to EQ, and it also has an effects loop so I can use whatever preamp pedal I have either in front or bypassing the preamp. I think most amps what have more than 100 w have this feature as well.
I still plan on auditioning the Rumble 100 (the 500 is bigger/heavier than I'm looking for) but I don't want an amp that needs external stuff to work for me.
So, IMO, something like the G-K MB 112 or a high-wattage MarkBass combo would be much better. (Or, if you have the funds, the G-K Legacy 112.)
The Legacy 112 looks really good "on paper", but is a bit more than I hoped to spend. If I find someone stocking it locally, I will try it.
 
Look into amp/cabinet setup. They generally sound better.i have a 1x12 cab for lower volume gig and a 2x10 cab for a little more volume. They may not gel together stacked. I have the rumble 100 i used at my small quiet gig. It did work fine. But the amp/cabinet setup sounds better
 
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I searched online was surprised to see how little there is even in Champaign! A Big 10 college town surrounded by high-tech and industry ought to have more. (They sure did when I was a student in the '80s and the town was a lot smaller.) C.V. Lloyde is still there but it's no longer a retailer, only doing rentals and installed systems.

Small world!!!

Back when Lloyde's was a musical equipment store, all my bass and FOH equipment came from C.V. Lloyde's. First from C.V. senior, and later from C.V. Jr.
Many, many times when we played Champaign or it's surrounding area Jr. ran sound for us using his Lloyde's system with the Bear 115 JBL W cabinets.
Super nice guy and I still hold Jr.'s ear for sound and his abilities behind the mixer as being one of the best ever!

It's been awhile since I've been in Champaign during business hours while the remaining music stores were still open.
There's basically 3 brick and mortars that still have some bass equipment available.
Last time I was in them:
Guitar Ctr., (a couple of Ampeg, Fender, Markbass and G.C. Acoustic bass combos).
Corson's, (G.K. and Behringer combos).
Upper Bout, (a single Mesa Subway 115 cabinet), that was their complete inventory of bass related anything.
 
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