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Another fender lawsuit

Agreed 100% and I know you’ll agree with this. Waiting 50+ years to start defending your trademarks should not be allowed.
It isn’t. Which is why Fender threatens to sue under copyright law, not trademark law. Their argument is that the strat design is a work of art (like a song, or a painting) to which they hold the copyright. Two important differences between copyright and a trademark are relevant here:
  • You don’t have to register your work for copyright protection, it applies automatically to any creative work
  • You don’t have to defend your copyright as aggressively as a trademark in order to hold on to it (though that doesn’t mean that can’t lose it)

It is for a judge to decide whether their claim is valid, i.e. whether the strat body shape was protected by copyright in the first place, and if so, whether it still is after decades of Fender doing nothing to protect it. The previous case doesn’t say much because the defendant didn’t bother to challenge Fender’s claim. Personally, I think Fender’s chances of winning this are pretty low, but you never know…

Anyway, I’ll just repost this article because it is an excellent summary of the situation:

Fender’s European Legal Campaign: What the Guitar Community Actually Needs to Know​


Fender's European Legal Campaign: What the Guitar Community Actually Needs to Know - Europe
 
I am probably in the minority here, but I believe no guitar body should be copyrighted. Only headstocks. To me, it's like trying to copyright the concept of a car. A chasis, a frame, 4 wheels, engine and transmission. If Ford were allowed to do this, the world would be very different now.

It reminds me of classical guitars. They all look pretty much the same. Headstock and all. Don't know how copyrights work for classical guitars. Most of the time, I can't tell one from the other.
It’s trademark, not copyright.

And anything that is brand distinctive is eligible.

Car manufacturers can’t copy the exact look of another manufacturer’s body style if it is distinctive and trademarked.
 
If Ford built a car that looked exactly like a Corvette, would that be legal? We’re not talking about ‘does it have tires or an engine?’ but about the shape/look.

AFAIK classical guitars are public domain unless it’s really different from customary, which is unlikely.
So many basses and guitars have been made by so many builders with a very logical roundish body with a short lower horn and a longer upper horn. Why would that design not be just as public domain as an acoustic?
 
Perhaps because at this time concurrent were not really able to reach Fender quality. Or at least didn't have the mondial réputation to do so. Now there are a lot of asian made brand that go over Fender quality for half to third the price and it's never been so easy to grab these with dealers like thomann, and youtube is full of vids explaining that. And everybody knows that, including a lot of pro that are playing Sire instruments for example and speaks about these instruments. Mentality changes and Fender little by little looses his aura.
 
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It’s trademark, not copyright.
Fender is specifically claiming that the strat design is protected by copyright law because they know they don't stand a chance under trademark law. That's what makes this case interesting.

They failed to trademark body shapes in the US. Gibson failed to trademark some body shapes in the EU. Now they argue that the strat body is a work of art and therefore protected by copyright law. And a judge went along with it because the defendant didn't bother to show up in court and fight the case.

I doubt that their claim will hold up in court when the defendant actually bothers to show up, but we'll see.
 
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I can't tell one from the other by just looking at them. This lawsuit will be a tough fight for Fender.
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Even if Fender has a legitimate copyright claim in the Strat's body in Europe, which is highly questionable IMO, I think some companies make enough alterations that they should be in the clear. Yamaha is a great example.

Their Pacifica S-type guitars have more pointed horns, move the jack to the side of the body, have differently-shaped contours, and use a very different pickguard design. Thus, they retain the functional aspects of the body design and much of its overall outline (which is itself functional), but they obviously aren't Fenders. (Yamaha also presumably has the resources to defend itself.)

 
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I'm not surprised Fender is being the bad guy in this. I think their new CEO has a long history of reviving Fender in Japan/Asia. They're going aggressive tactics to try and gain some majority of the U.S market. "They want a strat? They'll have to come to us and us only, and we can raise the price cause only we have it" very simple summary of course. Speaking of corporations and being evil;


The coffee was boiled to a ridiculous unnecessary degree of heat, the lid was put on improperly, and the lady only wanted the corporation to pay for her med bills, it burned her skin on her lap, it was awful.

McDonald's ran a very successful slander campaign against some poor old lady to cover their behinds for their incompetent workers.
The problem is the strat body shape became public domain in the US in 2009! This action they have taken ONLY applies to Europe. It will have no effect on the US market!
 
Remember. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. Means absolutely nothing until a court decrees wrongdoing by a defendant. Like people suing Mc Donalds because coffee is hot. Duh!!
Yes, but Fender is is trying to intimidate or run people out of business just because they have deeper pockets and can. Its got nothing to do with their actual standing on the claim in court.
 
The problem is the strat body shape became public domain in the US in 2009! This action they have taken ONLY applies to Europe. It will have no effect on the US market!
Perhaps, but if they are trying to claim copyright and not trademark, the rules are different. I don;t personally think that claim stands up in court but if they can scare a bunch out of business without going to court that really does not matter does it?

Its time to vote with our wallets
 
Here’s some nerdy lawyer-speak on the topic.

Nerdy Lawyers said:
The judgment of the Regional Court of Düsseldorf merits attention as an exemplary application of the Mio/konektra principles in practice. The decision demonstrates that a careful identification of specific creative elements “in the shape” of the subject matter – as required by the ECJ – can be achieved within the framework of existing German doctrine, without necessitating a break with FCJ terminology. Whether the default judgment will stand remains to be seen; however, its substantive treatment of the qualification as a work and the infringement test sets a standard for the future case law on works of applied art in European and German copyright law.