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Anybody else not using amps?

#61
I tried my first gig running just in ears. It worked out great! Just ran a Zoom b3 straight to the board and my wireless. Used a carvin IEM transmitter with some older shure buds. Ordered a set of the SE215 that should be coming in this week. Liked my Aguilar patch on the Zoom b3 so much that i ordered a Tonehammer pedal so i can free up a extra spot in the patches on my b3. Cant wait!
 
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brenner182 said:
I tried my first gig running just in ears. It worked out great! Just ran a Zoom b3 straight to the board and my wireless. Used a carvin IEM transmitter with some older shure buds. Ordered a set of the SE215 that should be coming in this week. Liked my Aguilar patch on the Zoom b3 so much that i ordered a Tonehammer pedal so i can free up a extra spot in the patches on my b3. Cant wait!
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sweet man!! let me know how you like the tonehammer when you get it!!
 
#63
irbass said:
Hello Tony.

I did read some post of you in the past, and you know a lot of about DI.
I'm kind of purist sound. I really like the very clean sound of my bass when I'm not using any effect.

So Tell me about Radial JDV. I'm really looking to buy one.

Tks.
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I'm self admitting a DI dork after being the house player for 3 different studios.
I will say this that the JDV is the cleanest out there and a lot of it is due to that HUGE 30 volt rail voltage. It was my elusive live DI but I replaced it with the Basswitch. The Basswitch also has a other features that I could use so its lives on my big board. The JDV is one of the leading re-ampting tools for guitarists because of how clean it is, and that says something.
What you put in is what you get out...No questions asked.

If you want the ultimate clean DI: Radial JDV

The Ultimate thick DI with color: REDDI

If your looking for flexibility, tone capability,
enough signal to a power amp, channel switching,
do your taxes, ect, ect, in a pro package: Basswitch
(The above description does not do enough justice for the Basswitch)

Quick convince with warmish saturation passive box: Radial JDI (although I use it/prefer it more with Keys and Electric-Acoustic guitar now).

I hope my experience helps...
 
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#66
ColonelZulu said:
I have a JamHub that is great for amp-free rehearsals.

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A completely underrated piece of equipment...The concept is great.

My only complaint is that the preamp themselves are kind of cheap in quality and do affect dynamic range. (Sorry JamHub guys if you are reading this, and yes you are local to me...I will gladly come in explain and demo if you like).

If they put one with better pres at least as Allen and Heath quality but doubled the price I would still go out and get one the next day.
 
#67
decentbassbreh said:
Im not really sure whats wrong with it but when I use it soundguys complain about white noise, not buzz or hum. I not sure why it has white noise but yeah
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The B-3 can be notoriously HOT (high output) at the XLR output depending on the Global output settings. Could it have been that it was seriously overdriving the input stage of the mixer and distorting it? I have had to back off my Global output a few times to accommodate various mixing consoles, and now I just leave it at a lower value to avoid future problems at the mixing desk. Without a doubt, taking a 1/4" output off the B-3 and running it into a direct box will help the output play nice with your mixing board, bringing it to a "mic level". White noise, though? If that's really, truly what the XLR is sending to the mixing board, then I'd say there's something fouled up with the B-3 XLR output.

Any chance you could back off the GLOBAL output value to, say 50 or lower, and try it again direct out XLR to the mixing board? That's just bizarre.
 
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I mainly use it to drive my IEM.
I can have electric and upright on separate channels. Then I take the FoH mix and I can blend it how I need to hear it (more bass / less bass).

But that's just one use.

I also use it for playing along to MP3s (and I think it works better than the iOS options for play-along).

Finally, like I said, it works great for silent rehearsals. We can use an area mic for the drums, but it's better yet when he uses an electronic kit.
 
#70
Testing123 said:
I have always heard/read that the JDV was for passive basses and the JDI was for active.
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There is no hard fast rule...At all.

However with that being said...If I had some real cool vintage passive instrument and I wanted to capture every little cool nuance I would use the JDV in a heartbeat.
 
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#71
I concur about the JDV. It's clean as a whistle and super accurate. Small, too! I especially love my JDV for acoustic bass, which has rich complex overtones that easily get muddied in many DIs.

I can't say the same for REDDI, which is too bulky for my taste. I've owned and gigged two of them. Very nice sound, but I disagree about it being the "best" DI. There's a whole big wide world of studio-quality DIs out there and I notice many on TB tend to hype REDDI to the point of annoyance. Check others out too!

For example, the Sonic Farm 2di4 is a relatively new super duper tube DI that I prefer -- hands down -- over the REDDI. It provides two different tube modes (triode and pentode), has some built-in gentle EQ capability, and best of all, you have three output jacks: one XLR is a high quality DI, another XLR can feed a power amp for simultaneous live tube sound through your cab, and the other is an uncolored thru you can send to your amp's pre or for other uses. That's the biggest downfall of REDDI - it's a one-trick pony. To my ears, the REDDI's sound is a bit too colored. In pentode mode, the Sonic Farm sounds MUCH more alive and 3D, particularly in the upper registers. In triode mode it's closer to the REDDI, but still superior. And the 2di4 is about half the size and weight of REDDI so it's much more portable.

http://www.talkbass.com/threads/sonic-farm-2di4.1078495/
 
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Hyper-sloth said:
I have the Radial Jensen passive DI. I couldn't get enough output to the PA. Has anyone else run a passive Fender through the Radial?
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Yes, no problem at all. Pedals can substantially suck tone out of the chain. Adding a boost pedal at the end of the chain such as the Empress Para EQ can help inject vigor sucked out by pedals.
 
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#76
Hyper-sloth said:
Hmm. Maybe I have my pedals all too low. Need to experiment more apparently.
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There's more than one factor besides the effects also the length of the cables try some different cable lengths.
 
#78
TonyP- said:
I'm self admitting a DI dork after being the house player for 3 different studios.
I will say this that the JDV is the cleanest out there and a lot of it is due to that HUGE 30 volt rail voltage. It was my elusive live DI but I replaced it with the Basswitch. The Basswitch also has a other features that I could use so its lives on my big board. The JDV is one of the leading re-ampting tools for guitarists because of how clean it is, and that says something.
What you put in is what you get out...No questions asked.

If you want the ultimate clean DI: Radial JDV

The Ultimate thick DI with color: REDDI

If your looking for flexibility, tone capability,
enough signal to a power amp, channel switching,
do your taxes, ect, ect, in a pro package: Basswitch
(The above description does not do enough justice for the Basswitch)

Quick convince with warmish saturation passive box: Radial JDI (although I use it/prefer it more with Keys and Electric-Acoustic guitar now).

I hope my experience helps...
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Helps a lot.
Appreciate it
 
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#80
I use very short cables and I use a BOSS GEB7 eq near the beginning of my chain as a buffer. At the end of my main board is the 1st version of the EBS Valve Drive. That goes to my mini board. Basically a Markbass Super Synth ( tracks okay here. Would rather have it in front of my pedals but there isn't enough real estate and I use it very little) into my Zoom B3 which I use as my DI sending an SVT sim to the PA and the line out to my amp, an Alembic F-1x/QSC 1602. I figured my tone is pretty good out of the EBS (actually really good LOL...I also have a Barbershop clone as an always on for my rocker gigs and a Catalinbread WIIO for the heavier songs) so I can use the Jensen JDI instead of the Zoom.
I DO like having control over the PA with the zoom, and I control my stage sound with the Alembic, which is awesome. It think it's a shame I am not using the Alembic's DI for the FOH but then I can do radical eq fixes for bad stage sound without effecting my feed: I currently using an Eden D410XLT which admittedly can get rather boomy quickly. Or I can do a pre rather than post feed to FOH but then I lose all my Alembic's tonal goodness...hence using the amp sim on the Zoom B3. Sorry for the long windiness! Anyway, I have a gig tonight so I'll get there early and try the Jensen DI again. Maybe my levels were too low though that has never been an issue with any other DI I've used though I think they have all been active ones.

Sorry, I hope I didn't derail the thread. I do want to replicate a good live tone without lugging my amp set up.
 
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