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Anybody played the ESP LTD Stream 204?

Broham,
Thanks for the follow up. Hhmmm..... finish that just buffs off? Not what I have in mind :rollno:
How disappointing! I love my LTD B-4B and was hoping the Streamer 204 would sound as good as I REALLY dig the looks of it! Of course there isn't one to try anywhere in this city of 1.7 million :sour:, only the same old Fender and Fender copies everywhere:banghead: in the ever-shrinking bass sections of Guitar Centers etc :crying:. Because stores don't offer much choice in inventory, the only way I could A-B the 3 amp heads I was interested in was to buy all 3 and return the 2 I didn't want :***:! You just have to time things with your credit card billing cycle and watch the 30 day return time :thumbsup:!!

You could probably still order one from Guitarcenter.com. The 30-day return policy still applies.
 
I am not surprised gold hardware wore on the buffer. Gold will normally wear because of skin oil and contact, the buffer just accelerated the process. I also wonder if Broham set the Stream up after changing to the heaver guage flatwounds? Depending on flatwound tension, they will definitely change the feel/action of any bass and require a new setup to play properly.

I can't speak to the Stream's tone, but mahogany has a different tone than alder or basswood instruments.

As to the preamp/tone, that can definitely be changed, if an owner chooses to make the investment. There are lots of preamp options available these days.

Anyway, all the best!

Bob
 
ESP / LTD STREAM 204 REVIEW
A pleasant surprise at my local GC yesterday: they had just put out 2 of these Stream 5 days before, so I spent 1/2 hour or so with one. Here are my impressions:

APPEARANCE
Absolute killer looks! I prefer the black one which is as impressive "live" as in the photos. Personally, I prefer the black bridge, tuners, and control knobs on the E-II $1800 ESP version of this bass, instead of the contrasting silver color on the LTD. Replacing the hardware would be around $200-250 plus installation. If I bought this bass, I'd likely use it as-is to see if the silver bothered me enough to replace it.

NECK DIVE
OK, this has been a concern of several TBers, myself included, given the body shape & lack of an upper "horn". To test it I put on a cheap slippery all nylon strap and the neck took a dive like the Titanic. Then I switched to a strap with a suede underside and, voila, no neck dive!

ERGONOMICS
With the strap button at the 15th fret, I wanted to see how the bass sits when standing up, using a strap. With the bass at my usual position (at my hips/waist; neck inclined slightly) my left hand in neutral position was at the 10th fret. With my basses which have the strap button on the tip of the "horns" i.e. at the 12th fret, my hand is at the 6th fret. The Stream strap position is great for playing the upper registers. However, I found playing the E & A string on frets 1-4 awkward to reach because, with the strap at the 15th fret, the nut is further away. So I lengthened the strap, dropped the body a little lower and angled the neck up more. That made the lower registers, especially on the E & A strings, much more accessible. That might make the upper registers a bit awkward to play but I don't play there too much. Given a little time, I'm sure I could get used to playing with the neck at a different angle. IMPORTANT! The upper strap button is not at a right angle to the strap due to the body shape (which I think is very sexy, esp in black :thumbsup:). Wearing this bass with the neck angled up will make the angle between the strap and button more obtuse (think high school geometry here :bookworm:) i.e. more open. If the strap button hole is not very tight, the bass could come off the strap! LOCKING STRAP BUTTON HIGHLY RECOMMENDED (which the $1800 version of this bass has).

SOUND
OK, we're all in this for the sound, right? :bassist::woot: I plugged into a TC Electronic BG250 combo amp at GC because I own that amp and know what it sounds like. I set the EQ on the amp to flat with no Tone Print effects on, to try the bass's EQ alone. The controls are: master volume (I much prefer that to individual volume controls for each pickup); pickup balance; stacked 2-band EQ (bass boost/cut is the larger, lower ring; treble boost/cut the upper). I found I could dial in a good variety of tone from this bass by tweaking the EQ and balance. To scoop the mids I boosted the bass and the treble (leaving the mids flat) and tipped the balance toward the neck pickup. This gave me a warm, fat sound that had just enough edge to give clarity to the lower register and prevent boominess. Reversing those settings will accentuate the mids substantially if that's the sound you're after.

CONCLUSION
I'm thinking of buying either this bass or a Fender Aerodyne Jazz (which I have yet to try). The Stream-204 is $300 less and has a lot going for it. I wish I had more time with it. As my local music stores don't have an Aerodyne, I will probably buy it and A-B it at GC against the Stream.

Hope this helps someone :thumbsup:

Joe
 
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I just tried one at GC for a good half hour, seems to be a good Indonesia 204, felt and sounded pretty great thru a Mark Bass Head and Ampeg Speaker... Sometimes we just need a reasonable priced spare that looks and sounds and feels good without dropping much more than 500, think this one is it for me this week. (the white one is made in China and a thicker neck, not sure what the story is there, this one I am on about is the sunburst)

It's an awesome playing and sounding bass. I had one, but took it back because the pots were crap. Started making noise almost immediately. I loved the bass, but dammit, I shouldn't have to replace the pots on a brand new bass! So I took her back, and been missing her ever since. :(**
 
I am going to go to the guitar center and check it out, but it doesnt seem like the neckdive as that much of a problem. The average thunderbird has the front strap button at about the the 16/17th fret. The streamer has it at about the 14th fret. I can see a little dive.

I played one right when it came out and I was very impressed.
 
Hi everyone, I realise that this is from an old thread but just to share some thoughts on the Stream 204. I bought one second hand in Bologna, as good as new, for just over 300Euro. I loved the look and the feel, and it sounded pretty good. I adjusted the truss rod and got the action really nice but wasn't totally in love with the sound. I looked at the upmarket versions and saw they had EMG pickups (P and J but in the same sized soapbar covers). Was it worth paying 50% of the purchase price for new pickups? I took the gamble and bought the P-style for the neck and the humbucker for the bridge. And... the bass is TRANSFORMED! I find I'm choosing it over its much more expensive stablemates (G&L L2000, MusicMan BFR StingRay, Yamaha BBPH) and its live debut went really well. The neck pickup gives a fantastic woody Precision tone, great with a pick, and the bridge for some Chic style funkiness. With both on it's deep and round and smooth, but with less character than using the pups individually. I have the EQ on almost full cut for bass and treble since the EMGs are so hot! I can't put this Ltd down now, it's just fantastic.
 
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Looks pretty good too! :rollno:

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JK, but pics would be nice!!
 
I like mine, Its not perfect, but with a few mods it could be.

Pros:
Lightweight, balances great,
Sounds like a good P/J
Sets up with nice action

Cons:
Preamp is a little hissy.
Tuners are sub par.
Not a big fan of matte black
 
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