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Anyone here own a Pearce BC1 preamp?

Just getting back into rock after decades and have a BC1 I picked up used a ways back... I wonder if anyone can tell me the characteristics of the compressor? Also, am using an EV 15B in the TL606 cabinet and a Peavey twin 10 w/horn, and currently two power amps, but want to try my venerable BGW 250C power amp. Thoughts on one side per speaker vs. parallel fed by bridging the amp? Also, people say "one channel is clean and one is distorted" but not which is which... I was using in in a big jazz band and it was great to be able to switch between electric and standup (piezo with no volume control) but I never explored tone differences between the two channels. Obviously very different inputs and I was going for a clean tone. Guess I need to experiment.

I don't believe the BC-1 has a compressor. It has a limiter, which is different.

This is such an old thread that I don't recall if I posted my setup before. When I had my BC-1, I ran the blended output to one channel of my power amp and then to the 15 (a EVM15L in a TL606). I ran an output of the clean channel (probably the green one) to the other channel of my power amp to an Acme 2x10. The footswitch let me add or remove overdriven tone from just the 15. The band was so stupid loud that I doubt the audience could tell the difference anyway, much less care.
 
I don't believe the BC-1 has a compressor. It has a limiter, which is different.

This is such an old thread that I don't recall if I posted my setup before. When I had my BC-1, I ran the blended output to one channel of my power amp and then to the 15 (a EVM15L in a TL606). I ran an output of the clean channel (probably the green one) to the other channel of my power amp to an Acme 2x10. The footswitch let me add or remove overdriven tone from just the 15. The band was so stupid loud that I doubt the audience could tell the difference anyway, much less care.
DUH. That would be why it says "Limiter". Got it.
Thanks
 
Hey y'all! Just trying to revive this Pearce Preamp thread. Also, havent been on in awhile, and I'm feeling nerdy, and chatty hah!

So, I actually just picked up a mint looking Pearce BC1 today, but Im not sure if I'll be keeping it. It was a really good price, so full honestly, I bought it with the intentions to check it out, and then will likely get it up on the bench, and give it a recap, and service, as Im sure the near 60 year old electrolytics aren't doing it any favours at all, plus its a pretty minimal/simple circuit, so why not.

As far as mods go, Ive never looked at what is being done with whatever Billy Sheehan Mod is floating around, but from what my ears hear, this amp has a very signature character, and Im willing to bet the BS mods are more based on refinement, smart tweaks rather than making it sound like a different animal.

Anyway, Id be curious to hear from any owners/users/modders etc, and just for instance, have you had one stock, and then modded it? Was it the BS mod, or something different? Also, can anyone tell me more about what the BS mod is actually doing, whether you know technical details, or just the differences you noticed after?

I personally feel like first of all, with preamps, the power amps can play a big roll, but also, at least in the studio its much easier to play with standalone preamps, which I still need to find time to hear just the preamp on its own, but that said, from what my ears hear, the low end, at least in a gain structure sense, a lot of lows get distorted, and early, making it sound for lack of better words, mushy/farty/loose lol. Not in a bad way really, but if I was going to start modding one, at least on one channel, Id probably look at pushing less lows in the distortion path, keeping the mids/high mids more the focus of the distortion. Even for cleaner sounds, the low end might be able to be tightened up a little. The thing is, Im almost positive that just recapping it will help the keep the low end tighter, and add some clarity, and attack/punch, so def starting there which is always a good idea IMO before modding. You wanna hear something how the designer intended IMO. I even listened to a demo of someones stock BC1 vs the Neural DSP capture, which I dont know if its un modded, but you can def hear that the Neural Capture is far tighter, and more open, and has more clarity etc, so Im def willing to bet someone like Neural DSP who are like super nerds are definitely not going to do an official capture to release to the world of something using 50-60 year old electrolytic caps ya know hah!

Anyway though, ya, would love to start a little discussion again, and just shoot the poopie, because these are really cool preamps. I also just need to say, it kinda bugs me when people(usually people selling something like this for a high, or new made up price) says they are rare. I wouldnt say these are rare by any means. Theres probably more than 100,000 of them out there, but I think they are cool, and unique enough, and the fact Billy put them on the map, that people keep them, and you just dont see them for sale as much as some things, so yes, Id say they are somewhat rare in that sense, but aside from that, I just think they are so cool, because for a SS bass preamp, they def dont sound like anything else out there, and I think its been one of those if you know, you know type things, because what Im hearing so far is that aside from how they sound on thier own, in a mix, especially the sound of the distortion, they just occupy a very nice sonic space, and just seem to sound awesome. As a mixing engineer myself, whether live, or on an album mix, but especially an album mix, sometimes Bass can actually be quite tricky, and finding the right distorted sound to sit properly not only with the cleaner, and other bass tones, but in the mix with the guitars can be a tricky thing, but I feel like the gain structure, and EQ of this amp just seem to occupy a nice space vs guitars just off the bat. That's not to say it would still totally depend on a lot of things, like what the specific other bass, and guitar sounds are, among other stuff, but its just caught my attention fairly recently as a really cool, and unique preamp.
 
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The first thing a real (as in educated professional) tech would do is measure the response and ripple voltages before changing anything. Recapping is nothing but a guessing game for most gear and most hobbiest "techs". That's MY experience, but what do I know... ;)
 
The first thing a real (as in educated professional) tech would do is measure the response and ripple voltages before changing anything. Recapping is nothing but a guessing game for most gear and most hobbiest "techs". That's MY experience, but what do I know... ;)
Ya cool man, thanks for the response. I def get theres more to servicing than recapping, and also there's a lot of people that bring up stuff like that that have no idea what they are doing, or why they are doing it. Just FYI, and its all good, but I wrote this to talk about the BC1, not to ask for help with servicing, or opinions on recapping, but I def always welcome help, or constructive criticism, but I get what your getting at. I mean, unless your just one of those people that respond to any posts about recapping just to say, "why would you do that"?..." If its working why would you ever recap it etc" even if they are 50-70 year old caps lol.
Anyway, I know that isnt what your doing/saying, but its just funny, because Ive never brought up the topic of recapping in a forum without getting told, "what are you thinking," Recap? WHY? Lol.

Im definitely doing Ok though, and in the past few years Ive recapped lots of my older amps, and gear, for which I have the tools to do proper work, and take measurements, and do necessary calibrations etc. I def dont consider myself a pro tech, and still have a lot to learn, but Im getting by pretty good, and also through my 20 years of being an audio engineer, I def always have reasons when I recap/service/mod something, and never just do it for no reason at all, and I def always start by taking measurements, but I dont agree that thier always needs to be a big aparent issue to make a call to recap something, and I dont think that just, because someone decides to recap something, it means that they are just engaged in majic thinking, or some guessing game ya know hah.

Anyway, this is already a way longer comment than I wanted to write, but I hope my original comment didn't come off wrong. I just wanted to start a general discussion/appreciation for the BC1, and hear what others experiences with it has been in terms of modding if anything.

I do appreciate the input though! Thanks brother!
 
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Perhaps real, knowledgeable, professional techs bring this up is because they have more experience than you do, and see plenty of examples of what happens when such a project goes wrong (which happens pretty often). When there's an identifiable issue with a cap (and they do exist), then replacing caps may be the correct solution. The folks that historically give this advice are also some of the most experienced techs on this forum.

Now, a question for you... if you don't want input and already know the answers, why bother asking? Would you prefer that folks just agree with your comments with confirmation even if in their experience it's a bad idea?
 
Perhaps real, knowledgeable, professional techs bring this up is because they have more experience than you do, and see plenty of examples of what happens when such a project goes wrong (which happens pretty often). When there's an identifiable issue with a cap (and they do exist), then replacing caps may be the correct solution. The folks that historically give this advice are also some of the most experienced techs on this forum.

Now, a question for you... if you don't want input and already know the answers, why bother asking? Would you prefer that folks just agree with your comments with confirmation even if in their experience it's a bad idea?
Hey,

I find texting a bit tough sometimes, just, because I feel like comments can be taken wrong, or in the wrong tone. I was basically just trying to say, and not sure if you read my whole reply, or how it came across, but I was just simply mentioning that I didnt restart the thread with the focus of servicing in mind. That said, I am the one that mentioned recapping, and guess I was just talking out loud, so Im not mad, and like I tried to say, Im always down to have a constructive conversation, or discussion, but I was just saying I wasnt particularly asking. Thats not me saying FU dude, I dont care. I said I totally get what you mean, and I agree, and know where your coming from. Also, I agree, I was saying I get it, theres a lot of people that dont know what, or why they are doing it, and I def get why people are confronted, but I guess sometimes I just feel like theres different approaches, and motives when they do.

I was just mentioning that the topic wasnt my intention, and was just hoping to talk about the BC1, and possible mods, but yeah man, Its all good, wasn't meaning anything in a rude way. Me replying was me trying to have a discussion, but I was just trying to give some context.

That said, I guess I dont know quite what to say, but I guess sometimes with these things, and like I say, Ive seen it, and ran into it in the past where I guess it just feels kinda one sided, or like I need to somehow justify myself, or theres only one right answer hah, but yeah no, what do you want to discuss from here? Do you want to message me privately? If not, here is fine too, but like I say, the thread was just more about the BC1 in general, and I was hoping to discuss that, and if anything BC1 mods people have done, but all good, we can talk here, or you can PM me. Up to you.
 
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That's cool, no worries.

There are others here who read this stuff and jump into "mods" and "fixes" without the necessary background or realizing the bigger picture, and the potential pitfalls that the pros here see regularly.